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2016-10-31 12:16
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11135
X2016 bitching thread!!! MAKE SOME NOISE!!!

- real party is outside although there is meditation groups. i swear.
- spilled havanna club on jeans so when arriving back home girlfriend said i was smelling like a schnapsfabrik.
- walking into toilet room in the middle of the night with only socks on wasnt fun. i didnt care much.
- transfer team was nice and quick with my input64 disks. back home i notice its all D64s. DAMNIT WHAT WERE YOU THINKING :(
- i wasnt drunk enough for karaoke
- and last not least: NO FUCKING STREAM FOR THE SOFASCEENERS!!! MAKE SOME NOISE!!!!
 
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2016-11-01 19:59
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
Quoting Burglar
- I didn't meet Red+White/The Judges.

They simply avoided you! sorry for telling you the truth.
:)
2016-11-03 12:51
Peacemaker

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 243
- Its saying C64 Compo, not 64 reloaded(did not even know that exists)-compo ;) use a goddamn vsp-safe c64 :P
- toilets at dorm needed to be cleared more often
- More vegan-food
2016-11-03 13:22
Aomeba

Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 19
Quote: - Its saying C64 Compo, not 64 reloaded(did not even know that exists)-compo ;) use a goddamn vsp-safe c64 :P
- toilets at dorm needed to be cleared more often
- More vegan-food


Was it a Reloaded c64 running the compo? That explains why our demo crashed as well, it never did that.

I have a Reloaded mobo sitting in a box.. Just saw one of those first versions going for 800€ on eBay. Maybe I'll just keep that in a box as a retirement plan, and run the demos on a VSP stable original C64!
2016-11-03 13:29
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11135
there is no 100% VSP stable C64 in the first place (since the behaviour varies with temperature, for instance) :)
2016-11-03 13:37
Toggle

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 32
- The parking situation: the parking lot was full, even the side of the road was totally crowded. I ended up parking somewhere in Belgium

- The toilets: Things were fine on friday, but everything got worse after the compos. Some guys probably tried to imitate the movements of Bob's bobs while peeing, but that's just a theory

- The nightly snoring compos: While there were quite a few impressive basses I began to hear ring modulations after a while (probably due to lack of sleep). I felt pretty holgered the day after and I didn't even touch any alcohol by then
2016-11-03 13:40
Peacemaker

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 243
Quote: there is no 100% VSP stable C64 in the first place (since the behaviour varies with temperature, for instance) :)

wrong. you can say: we do not know if there is a 100% vsp-safe c-64. a c64 that never crashed due vsp since 100.000 hours MAY crash in the next hour.

thats all.

and its known that the 64 reloaded is not vsp-safe:
http://www.forum64.de/index.php?thread/61494-c64-reloaded-bugs-..
https://www.c64-wiki.de/index.php/C64_Reloaded#cite_note-5
2016-11-03 13:40
Aomeba

Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 19
Aand by that, we get back to bitching: Somebody looked at the compo c64 wrong while our demo was running. Or maybe laid a long, warm breath on it and caused a crash.

My Siesta logo caused a facepalm+breath = crash, while Carrion's pic on the Hitmen demo caused 2x long breaths of amazement = 2x crashes.

Solution: Don't breath the next time, or if you have to, go to the next room!
2016-11-03 13:58
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11135
Quote:
wrong. you can say: we do not know if there is a 100% vsp-safe c-64. a c64 that never crashed due vsp since 100.000 hours MAY crash in the next hour.

thats all.

the result is the same. no matter how much you test for it, it does in no way tell you that it will not crash.

Quote:
and its known that the 64 reloaded is not vsp-safe:

not exactly - whats known is that the VSP fix does not work reliable when using the 8565 VIC, it does work when using 6569. other than that its as good (or bad) than any other C64 regarding VSP.
2016-11-03 14:04
Peacemaker

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 243
Quote: Quote:
wrong. you can say: we do not know if there is a 100% vsp-safe c-64. a c64 that never crashed due vsp since 100.000 hours MAY crash in the next hour.

thats all.

the result is the same. no matter how much you test for it, it does in no way tell you that it will not crash.

Quote:
and its known that the 64 reloaded is not vsp-safe:

not exactly - whats known is that the VSP fix does not work reliable when using the 8565 VIC, it does work when using 6569. other than that its as good (or bad) than any other C64 regarding VSP.


the result may be the same but there is a difference: c64s that never crashed with vsp since their first power on have higher chances not to crash in the future, than c64 models that have been crashed in the past.
and yes, the 64 reloaded as it was sold does have huge problems with vsp as mentioned in the forum. you need to get another vic to solve the problem or wait for the "new" mainboard from jens.
2016-11-03 14:12
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11135
Quote:

the result may be the same but c64s that never crashed with vsp since their first power on have higher chances not to crash in the future, than c64 models that have been crashed in the past.

not really - you might read up on how randomness actually works and what parameters affect the behaviour in this case. its not that simple.
Quote:

yes, the 64 reloaded as it was sold does have huge problems with vsp as mentioned in the forum. you need to get another vic to solve the problem.

nope, it doesnt have more problems than any other C64 - and there also exist 8565 equipped ones that are "stable" (as much as you can say that). if you want to be 100% sure the VSP fix works - something you cant be sure of with a regular c64 - THEN you need old VIC. no more no less.
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