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2006-09-23 20:00
trident

Registered: May 2002
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Who really invented 4x4 mode?

Ok so Graham made the first implementation of 4x4 that was useful in practise (Coma Light 12), but who was the first to invent 4x4 and to use 4x4 in a demo? I seem to remember something about Wrath Designs being the first to use it but I was quite absent from the scene in 1994 so I can't recall in which demo.

Anyone knows better?
2006-09-23 20:34
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474
i remember the note for courtesy of soviet
2006-09-23 20:35
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11149
that raises the question what exactly you mean by "4x4" (i assume 4x4 fli). eg there have been scrollers with 4x4 pixels loooong before 1994 :)
2006-09-23 21:08
trident

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 79
Quote: that raises the question what exactly you mean by "4x4" (i assume 4x4 fli). eg there have been scrollers with 4x4 pixels loooong before 1994 :)

Of course I meant 4x4 scrollers, not 4x4 FLI :-P

Hollowman: wasn't Courtesy of Soviet released after Coma Light 12?
2006-09-24 07:03
Honesty

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 117
Who was comming up first with such kind of effect (4x4) scroller was crest in ice cream castle where they use a kind of eci mode to display a flipping fli logo.

I also coded such a scroller in 1992 never released it thou coz the group died before demo was ready.
2006-09-24 07:28
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
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Honesty: sounds more like 4x1 to me :)
2006-09-24 09:01
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474
Quote: Of course I meant 4x4 scrollers, not 4x4 FLI :-P

Hollowman: wasn't Courtesy of Soviet released after Coma Light 12?


yes, but they write in the note about how they invented the 4x4 mode before oxyron released theirs
2006-09-24 09:13
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5031
lol, well graham has the credit no matter how hard the wrath guys cry.
2006-09-24 11:48
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11149
i'd almost bet that other people did it years before but didnt release it, because they thought its crap :)
2006-09-24 12:01
trident

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 79
Quote: i'd almost bet that other people did it years before but didnt release it, because they thought its crap :)

:-D

Ok thanks for clearing this up. So it is Graham we should all blame then :)

Btw who was the first to do pixel-based effects in 8x8 or 8x4? First time I remember seing an 8x4-based effect was a rotator in an old Censor demo. Can't remember which though.
2006-09-24 12:19
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5031
Btw who was the first to wipe his ass after taking a dump? First time I remember seeing this was when I accidentally opened the wc door on one of my parents. Can't remember which though.


 
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