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2006-01-04 19:45
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 335
Release id #26015 : Ocean Breeze Preview

Last autumn someone uploaded one of my demo previews to CSDB (after adding a text screen to it), calling it "Sea Creatures Prv". Now it seems the same person has done the same with at least 3 other unfinished previews I made.

Let's take a look at the login info of the fakeuser who uploaded the first preview: xybo 03/10-2005 06:11.17 03/10-2005 06:12.34 00:01.17 69.60.225.213

69.60.225.213 is found in Canada Hostname: ppp-69-60-225-213.unitz.ca

The IP 69.60.225.213 has also been used by...Wanderer.

Let me quote from two emails I got from Wanderer a while ago after having sent him some previews:

"One day I may have enough CTR previews to release "The Creator Game 100%" err... just kidding I wouldn't do that."

"I'm working on a new demo, its called Creator's Critters, and its a whole bunch of little intros and musics.... good graphics too... No, I wouldn't put out the previews. Trust is important"

Trust is important, indeed. At the time I thought he was just making bad jokes. It never crossed my mind that he would actually sink so low, and I still don't understand why he did it.

In a PM to me, the fakeuser wrote "We have 12 more Creator releases. If you're nice, they may never see daylight." - Creator instead of Creators, the exact same mistake Wanderer made in his emails to me.

Serves me right for being so naive (stupid, even) I suppose, I'm hoping people can still understand the pain of seing my half-finished work published without permission. Maybe some of you find it amusing, just another episode of the soap opera that is the scene, maybe some of you think "oh, that bitch got what she deserved". Kicking people while they are down is pretty low though.
2006-01-04 20:17
Tch
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This is just so low. :(

I thought it was strange when I saw these previews here.
Even made a joking comment on the Sonix preview as it was released in August already.
Never suspected it was about bad intentions.

This goes beyond lame!
Maybe I´ll join the SAW afterall..
2006-01-04 20:36
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
childish.

so is this wanderers pathetic revenge for Swappas with Attitude using Mermaid's charset in A Very Wanderer Xmas? Which if I understod correctly was made in a demomaker?

its been really too much shit going on lately..
2006-01-04 20:42
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2894
Totally and utterly pathetic...

Will Perff finally respond now?
2006-01-04 21:01
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
BTW. thank you - wanderer for uploading this, now there's no doubt that you released Balloonacy 2 +2.

If you want to do fake stuff.. Try another approach in coding. I mean stuff at $c000 and jsr $ab1e / jsr $ffe4, same kind of packer/cruncher is far too obvious..
2006-01-04 21:05
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 589
wtf is happening here lately?
2006-01-04 21:07
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
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Quote: childish.

so is this wanderers pathetic revenge for Swappas with Attitude using Mermaid's charset in A Very Wanderer Xmas? Which if I understod correctly was made in a demomaker?

its been really too much shit going on lately..


No that was Slarti aka Crudsmoker/SWA.
2006-01-04 21:08
Wanderer
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Posts: 478
Apparently I own the copyright on $c000 routines, $ffe4 and $ab1e and nobody else is entitled to use them. I use ECA linker which of course nobody out there has ever used...

*shrugs* I'm just not feeling the love

Urine, Afros, Crudsmoker vs Slarti... this place is full of fake labels and names. It's a widely known fact that 'trippy' was my second account and the initials ML were intended to reflect me.... yes it's my Balloonacy.


2006-01-04 21:11
Six

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 287
Lame.

Weak.

Real weak.

These antics do not serve to improve the image of the NTSC scene or NTSC sceners in general.

/disgusted.
2006-01-04 21:13
Wanderer
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Oh the drama...

2006-01-04 21:21
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
sure, many people might have used the eca linker. but you're just busted. deal with it.

this is my last post on the wanderer drama. I will not follow any more post that regards him.

2006-01-04 22:34
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 335
One more thing, before I forget...the previews were not uploaded with the correct names. The demo was never going to be called Ocean Breeze. Also, the space2005 preview was made 5 years ago, and the text that was originally in that preview was aparently removed before it was uploaded here.
2006-01-04 22:59
Sixx

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 229
Ooooohohoooooo Waaaaaaandereeeer... You're just sooo lame. Ohohohohoooo ooooh Wandereeeeeeeeeeeeer You're the most pathetic person on the eeeeeeeeeeeaaaaarth Ohohohohohooooooooooooooooooo (Melody: Livewire by Motley Crue)
2006-01-04 23:03
CreaMD

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Perff is aware of this and will look into it (tommorow) resp. later today.
2006-01-05 00:10
Wanderer
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Quote: Ooooohohoooooo Waaaaaaandereeeer... You're just sooo lame. Ohohohohoooo ooooh Wandereeeeeeeeeeeeer You're the most pathetic person on the eeeeeeeeeeeaaaaarth Ohohohohohooooooooooooooooooo (Melody: Livewire by Motley Crue)


Your Motley Crue serenading cry for attention has been noted.
2006-01-05 09:45
Sixx

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 229
Ohohohoohoh. Hail Satan!
2006-01-18 07:15
Kickback

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2006-01-18 07:48
Oswald

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2006-01-18 08:16
Slartibartfast
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Quote:

2006-01-18 08:19
stash
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muhahahah seems like wanderer never stopps.. admins when will u ban this retard
2006-01-18 09:28
Jon
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Quote:

2006-01-18 14:37
Style

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498
This is just sad attention seeking.

btw, whats with all the blank quotes/replies? Someone been editing?
2006-01-18 14:54
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 335
If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say maybe some people are trying to keep this thread visible on the front page.
2006-01-18 15:22
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
i wonder whats more lame, acting like wanderer or beeing an admin not taking any action on such issues :/
2006-01-18 17:36
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
blank posts r just 4 fun. no background meaning.

what action could the admins take ? ban wanderer ? how ?

2006-01-18 18:15
stash
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SECRET MAN refused to leave Wanderer at the hospital for further research.

2006-01-18 19:01
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
at worst, put a ban on the ip block he's using. happens on other scene forums all the time.
2006-01-18 19:05
SECRET MAN
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Quote: SECRET MAN refused to leave Wanderer at the hospital for further research.



I love this Stash-Kangaroo

jump jump
2006-01-18 21:10
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Quote: I love this Stash-Kangaroo

jump jump


Secret Man: ex-scener, ex-pay member, ex-subscriber to budget magazines to get budget titles to impress local bbs sysops. Bluebox is soooooooo skilllful.

2006-01-18 21:50
SECRET MAN
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Quote: Secret Man: ex-scener, ex-pay member, ex-subscriber to budget magazines to get budget titles to impress local bbs sysops. Bluebox is soooooooo skilllful.



Hmmm David.Can you define ex-scener ? Im here and i do what i did all the time.I collect C-64 stuff for my own collection.
All your arguments show me your weakness.About the word Pay-Member i can only laugh.Im much longer in da scene as you think.
It was the year 1986 as i started to form The Insiders.
Skid Row and Skinhead were 14 years old.

Member list was:

Lazyness
Robin (Shining8)
Skinhead
Skid Row
Secret Man

And you want to tell me something about Pay-Member,Sorry i was the leader.
But its not your guilt,you are only a stupid kangaroo


2006-01-19 02:59
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Hahah. WOW. What a strong argument.

There is a lot of collectors in the scene, which is a nice thing to do, but if you come on this database and run your mouth all over the place, people won't think of you in a nice way, but maybe you don't care about that?

Now you just hang around, chat on the internet and collect old wares (this is not about being a scener and you know it). But still, if you want me to write in the disk magazines that you have returned to the scene and will start supplying games, cracking and coding again, I'm more than happy to do that.

2006-01-19 08:00
stash
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secretman: SWA is looking for a paying and forum scener u was the first name that came up.....

oh they will provide u with sneakers and jogging suit

muhahahahah u loooooser

2006-01-19 10:19
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
ahah, a forum-scener, I like that, certainly it would fit Secret Man very well. Also IRC-scener is another that can be used for certain people too ;)
2006-01-19 15:00
SECRET MAN
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Quote: Hahah. WOW. What a strong argument.

There is a lot of collectors in the scene, which is a nice thing to do, but if you come on this database and run your mouth all over the place, people won't think of you in a nice way, but maybe you don't care about that?

Now you just hang around, chat on the internet and collect old wares (this is not about being a scener and you know it). But still, if you want me to write in the disk magazines that you have returned to the scene and will start supplying games, cracking and coding again, I'm more than happy to do that.



Thats life.Some guys collect stamps and i collect old c64 stuff,im happy if i can hear good Sid-Musics and find some good intros infront of the games.
Give me new stuff and i will collect it,but you only gave me this Candyman Prv.
You saw my answer.I gave you an boxing kangaroo.

And sorry,i dont want to waste my time with this SAW shit.
About wanderer:Perhaps he deleted something,but you must see the good side,too.He supported this Database more as other users here.I checked it,he uploaded many things here
(Ikari cracks).
Stash:Do you know Depeche Mode?

Master :Secret Man
Servant:Stash

2006-01-19 18:42
stash
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secret man: do u know how to read????? S-W-A... not S-A-W seems to me u should have put ur money on english books instead of buying copmuter mags

yeah wanderer has uploaded a lot of COOOL stuff amongs them mermaids previews.. but then again he is also just a forum scener just like u

yes i know depeche mode not my type of music tough

2006-01-19 19:25
SECRET MAN
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Quote: secret man: do u know how to read????? S-W-A... not S-A-W seems to me u should have put ur money on english books instead of buying copmuter mags

yeah wanderer has uploaded a lot of COOOL stuff amongs them mermaids previews.. but then again he is also just a forum scener just like u

yes i know depeche mode not my type of music tough



Oh Sorry,

I thought SAW Stash An Weevil


2006-01-19 21:31
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Secret Man: regarding releases for your collection. Like I care what your opinion is. You haven't been around for years and then just show up here out of nowhere as some big collector and scene-master. I guess you have missed many releases and your comments are out of place, afterall, how could you possible know anything when you have been away and others HAVEN'T been away?!

Forum-sceners rule. Reminds me of all the Germans calling their local German BBS'es when Blueboxing died. ;) haha. give me cards give me cards, pbxs, meridian... help we need to call our WHQ in the states and can't... ;)
2006-01-19 21:51
SECRET MAN
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Quote: Secret Man: regarding releases for your collection. Like I care what your opinion is. You haven't been around for years and then just show up here out of nowhere as some big collector and scene-master. I guess you have missed many releases and your comments are out of place, afterall, how could you possible know anything when you have been away and others HAVEN'T been away?!

Forum-sceners rule. Reminds me of all the Germans calling their local German BBS'es when Blueboxing died. ;) haha. give me cards give me cards, pbxs, meridian... help we need to call our WHQ in the states and can't... ;)


Really hard words from you,David.A real C64 scener will always return to the scene,but ive never said,that im a scene-master.Thats your words.

I was always able to call out and i never cryed for cards.I loved these MCI and At&t girlies.





2006-01-19 22:22
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Well, scene-master is my words - true! But I use them because you seem to have all these answers despite having been gone for some years.

SPRINT was the best. MCI and AT&T were okay. Sprint was the cooler one as those cards could call banned countries like Columbia etc. Not that many sceners lived there, but if you were selling them you obtained a lot more money for them from certain people. :)

2006-01-19 22:40
SECRET MAN
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Quote: Well, scene-master is my words - true! But I use them because you seem to have all these answers despite having been gone for some years.

SPRINT was the best. MCI and AT&T were okay. Sprint was the cooler one as those cards could call banned countries like Columbia etc. Not that many sceners lived there, but if you were selling them you obtained a lot more money for them from certain people. :)



AHA.Now i have it.You missed me.
I remember as i got an MCI Family card from Edwin Van Santen.
4 hours and the card was dead.
3 weeks no Edwin on Us boards.

2006-01-20 03:10
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
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Yeh EVS was calling out a bit. with his girlfriend and some other guy in 20CC I've forgot. Also their friend: Bad Boy.

Ahhh those were fun days. ANYONE can get on a forum these days, back then you had to be "connected" or have skill.
2006-01-20 08:39
stash
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1-800-south bell was a blast aswell had a visa gold card for months running there....

how come u never got any cards from marc u had not enough money or what????

secretpussy ur just a lamer always was always will be
2006-01-20 12:22
SECRET MAN
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Quote: 1-800-south bell was a blast aswell had a visa gold card for months running there....

how come u never got any cards from marc u had not enough money or what????

secretpussy ur just a lamer always was always will be


I had several visa,master and golden cards but it was to dangerous to use them,after i heard the story with Gene.



Slash_withDreams:I never asked marc for cards,i had enough.


2006-01-20 12:43
cba

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Quote: Yeh EVS was calling out a bit. with his girlfriend and some other guy in 20CC I've forgot. Also their friend: Bad Boy.

Ahhh those were fun days. ANYONE can get on a forum these days, back then you had to be "connected" or have skill.


Bad Boy was not a c64 scener, just a amiga nerd, wonder what happend to this guy

2006-01-20 18:34
Jazzcat

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Quote: Bad Boy was not a c64 scener, just a amiga nerd, wonder what happend to this guy



Yeh I know, I was speaking to him a lot and he was making music on his Amiga and synth (Emu-morpheus). Another crazy guy...
2006-01-21 08:27
stash
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another crazy guy was mr. mister/trance :) met him at a party in denmark

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