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2007-01-09 19:39
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
New SID frontend released !!

Hello fellow C64 freaks!

I just wanted to let you know that there is a new SID frontend available to the public now. It has features no other SID tool offers since today:

* Support Sidplay2/w for playback
* Support TinySID for playback
* Easy access to the entire High Voltage Sid Collection
* Easy single-click interface
* Songlength database support
* Continuous play to discover SIDs unknown to you
* Playlist support with ability to add certain subsongs
* Experimental sid2midi support (sid2midi.exe not included)
* Built in search function
* Build on .NET framework 2.0 (required)

Steppe from HVSC suggested i shall promote it here. So did i. Hope you like it.

http://sidtool.drool.de/

Regards,
Madman
 
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2007-01-19 00:43
tora
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Registered: Jun 2005
Posts: 6
Hi Madman!

I couldn't reproduce any of the problems with that version. Looks like you defeated those bugs! Congratulations! :D

The software I used to capture the screen is Camstudio. You can find it here:

www.camstudio.org

And I'm pleased to help you as I find this tool very handy :D
2007-01-19 08:28
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Yay, i'm glad to hear that :o)

I will release the current version later today then.
If any other problems occur, let me know.

One last note: The tool is meant to be used with the HVSC only so far. The HVSC should also be unaltered, means no SIDs, testfiles or folders should be deleted in the HVSC.
Otherwise the integrity of the data may become corrupt.
Means, STIL search could bring up files you have deleted, leading to a crash.

This especially may happen if used to browse the HVSC46 beta folder or some personal SID folder, which has no STIL file for example. Or no Songlength.txt.

I will try to get these Problems solved in the following versions.

2007-01-19 14:43
Vai

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 50
nevermind the bug I mentioned with the 2nd monitor, I've tried the 0.9 now and it doesn't occur anymore.
2007-01-19 15:07
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
great, thanks for the info.

i guess we may have a 1.0 RC1 here then. :D
Anyway, i put it up as 0.9.2 now.

I have some more things i like to add, some suggested by testers: :
- Auto switch to sidplay2 if continuous Play with subsongs enabled
- Advanced search: Add buttons to narrow fields being searched in (sometimes gets too many results)
- Make title in Advanced Search results clickable to order the results
- Remember last used Player
- Save PlayList temporary and reload temporary PL
- Auto find SID in HVSC when clicked on in Advanced Search

Did i miss anything ?

2007-01-20 16:10
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
0.9.4 is out.

Fixed like a dozend bugs Yodelking pointed out. Thx dude!
Added SLDB override support on Steppes request.
New Playlist features (old one still compatible, but that wont help much if hvsc46 is out i guess)
Now adds current _playing_ song to Playlist instead of selected one from HVSC. Nice for adding search results. :)
This and that...

2007-01-20 16:54
Tchad

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 8
Good first impression, especially how the HVSC is handled.

Anyway, maybe this is silly but I have this dream about being able to scrobble SIDs on the www.last.fm site. Basically, this is a site that keeps track of what music you listen to by letting you download a plug-in to your favourite desktop audio-player. By transmitting the metadata of the song, it collects listening statistics and gives you recommendations accordingly.

There's loads more to it than this, but I hope you get the basic idea. However, there is AFAIK no SID player around that supports scrobbling. Foobar with a SID plug-in has made the best attempt, but it gets confused about the fact that there are no well defined songlengths.

Madman:
Have a look at
http://www.last.fm/tools/downloads
and in particular
svn://svn.audioscrobbler.net/ScrobSub
and see if this is something you'd want to consider. Would be much appreciated ;-)

The word on the street is that all there is to do is to consider four player events (start, stop, pause and resume) and just call the appropriate method in the downloadable (if you'd want to install SVN) sourcecode.

Cheers,

Mattias - www.last.fm/user/gratishora
2007-01-20 19:28
tora
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2005
Posts: 6
This is going better each day! :D Good work! :)

I've another tiny bug to report.

When pressing '<' or '>' to select next/previous subsongs, sometimes sidplay2 won't be started. I've also tried combinations of checking/unchecking the restart and hide options.

When sidplay2 doesn't start, just pressing stop and then play makes it play the selected subtune.

EDIT: It also happens with TinySid player.
2007-01-20 19:34
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Hmm that is some idea that came to my mind too, having people submit their sessiondata to some site.
But i'm not sure if there is enough audience for such a feature ? How many of the people on lastfm are into SID music ?
Songlength still is a problem, even for SidTool, as there are quite a bunch of SIDs that have no songlengths defined. I use 120 seconds then.

I may consider that for an upcoming version past 1.0, depending on the feedback i get about this. I'd like to make a MOD-Port for Amiga music too, as soon as i learn about some comandline-capable MOD-Player, or even add MOD support to SIDtool and i guess the audience will like triple.

But to be honest, for now i will be glad to have the tool finished and stable as it is now. It has more features by now than i ever considered adding :) And all these bugs drive me somewhat nuts atm :-P
2007-01-20 19:37
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Quote: This is going better each day! :D Good work! :)

I've another tiny bug to report.

When pressing '<' or '>' to select next/previous subsongs, sometimes sidplay2 won't be started. I've also tried combinations of checking/unchecking the restart and hide options.

When sidplay2 doesn't start, just pressing stop and then play makes it play the selected subtune.

EDIT: It also happens with TinySid player.


Yes, thats something that happens now and then.
No clue why at the moment. I use the same function to start the SID, no matter wether you click the song or hit the play button, as its inside the SIDtune class i made. I will look into that soon ofcourse.
2007-01-22 14:55
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Yay. HVSC 46 is out.

So i released 0.9.5 which has option to convert your HVSC45 PlayList to HVSC46 paths.
Also added random play and now saving window size and column width of search results and Playlist.

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