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2015-09-11 09:26
ThunderBlade

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 75
SID Recognizer plugin for VICE?

Sorry if this already exists - but if it doesn't, I think it would be neat to have a "plugin" or extension to VICE that would automatically detect the currently playing SID and display its composer in the status bar. Would such an extension make sense?
 
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2015-09-13 09:50
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2076
In the few cases in which users don't recognize a tune but wanna know which it is, they should no shun using Sidknown, it's a great tool.

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runs outside the emulator

As do plenty of other things :) An emulator is not an all-in-one-device for whatever has to do with C64.

I don't think it's realistic to integrate such functions in WinVICE, since an emulator's job is mostly emulation, that's what it's for and enhancing emulation is what VICE team's focus is/should be.

Maybe some kinda GUI/frontend for SIDKnown would make it more handy/appealing to more users. However, ppl learned how to use .BATches for Exomizer and other tools as well and I haven't read any complaints about that.
2015-09-13 09:53
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11135
it pretty much boils down to "the total number of people willing to help with winvice is zero". and we will not think about adding new features of any kind until at least most known bugs/problems are fixed.
2015-09-13 10:39
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1153
From a technical viewpoint it would need to watch for SID register writes, check where in the memory those are coming from, then run a compare of the memory area against a SID database?

That sounds more complicated (has to run in a background thread to not bog down the actual emulation) than being just able to run against a file like SIDKnown, and also more errorprone. Sometimes the SID rip no longer corresponds to what is actually in the C64 memory, for example when a multi-load game's tunes are condensed into one SID file.
2015-09-13 11:40
Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 421
It'll probably work better if you build something like Shazam with frequency-domain finger prints of all SIDs in HVSC.
2015-09-13 12:13
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 474
No integrated SID identification, thanks. I still can't read my e-mails using VICE either.
2015-09-13 13:30
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
I also vote for NO sid recognizer in VICE.. I can't see why it would be important.
2015-09-13 15:13
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11135
it could mute automatically if certain composers are detected =)
2015-09-13 15:49
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
Groepaz: Well ok, ONE good point then! :D
2015-09-13 15:52
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 474
Groepaz: Perhaps we could integrate OpenCV to do something similar for visual stuff as well? ;)
2015-09-13 21:37
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1628
Yes... no sid recognizer plugin please! :) I'd much rather see more "basic" stuff like an official build of VICE for Mac. :)
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