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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1047 |
X2016 Competitions: Your Input Wanted!
The 28th of october is still far away but getting closer and closer. The organizers have been getting busy and are now well underway to get everything sorted out for another smashing X!
Since entry delivery and running the compos at X14 went quite smooth and voting is now done in realtime, we believe we may have room for 1 or 2 more (small/fun) c64 competitions. Like a PETSCII compo or a 4k compo, or maybe you guys have an idea?
Or perhaps you think the straightforward demo/music/gfx compos are enough.
Let us know :) |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1292 |
Sometimes I don't get you, guys ;) Topic was about optional compos to be added to classic X'2016 menu. Somebody mentioned 2SID and it produced most probable issues with absolutely most obvious one being permutation of different compo machines to deal with in runtime. Actually it was never a huge problem at other parties featuring 2SID but fuck it. One of most obvious and logical solutions is just prerecorded stuff - it reduces multitude of cables, multiplexers, routers and whatever stuff is used to swap signal. Moreover it allows to reduce compotime which seems crucial due to amount of entries and usual demo compo hour. And suddenly whole thickheaded bunch cries how it kills spirit of christmas. So I guess it's best to fuck all additional compos and go as usual. No 2SIDs and any fancy faggotry. So why to put any idea here at all? ;) I'd really love more logical objections to the above instead of crying over kid's years when grass was greener and demos were crashing :P |
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Smasher
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512 |
most crashing demo compo? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11146 |
just for the records: i am very much against recording C64 demos at X. show them live and let them crash. AND FUCKING DONT SHOW THEM AGAIN IF SO.
and please use a proper 1541 for the damned compo too. not some half working emulator. |
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Brush
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 21 |
Jammer,
I think you don't fully get what i was trying to say: demo compo is a LIVE event. There is a place for competition of videos: on youtube ppl are posting crazy videos all the time. and there is a place for LIVE compo.
Being a musican you for sure differentiate between live concert and studio recording.
That's exactly the same difference.
And that's why ppl dislike "playback" usage durince live concert. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11146 |
ppl drool all over "concerts" consisting of pressing play on laptop and then waving LED fingers in the air |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1292 |
@Groepaz - now that was a hard slap. I guess we can expect one live performance less now :P |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11146 |
i just find the comparision beyond silly. recording a demo (properly) and then playing it back for the audience changes exactly nothing. you wouldnt event notice if you didnt know it. comparing it with a life performance of a band playing on stage is just silly. |
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Brush
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 21 |
Well "beyond silly" is a good argument. It has a good property of being generic and could be used any any context and any discussion. Risking the possibility of being served with another generic reply let me explain you one difference between "live" and "playback" that i'm referring to and you seem to miss: the possibility of error, mistake or a force majeure. Which you remove by recording. So the whole difference is not if anybody would notice when everything goes smoothly - then in both cases nobody would notice.
I'm not saying i wouldn't enjoy a good demo, when it's played as a video. Not at all. I'm just saying that it's a different feeling. |
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soci
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 474 |
Solution: just use a network connected windows pc for playback. The trill will be still there:
Will it play the recording of my demo without stalls/tearing at full frame rate or not?
As I remember Breakpoint used some special rack mounted studio recorder for older machines. Not sure if it was played back without frame-rate conversion or not.
As a solution we could ban scrolls and interlace stuff! ;) Helps to avoid those 30s pictures complained about above as well ;) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11146 |
Quote:I'm not saying i wouldn't enjoy a good demo, when it's played as a video. Not at all. I'm just saying that it's a different feeling.
you would'nt even notice, if not someone would tell you before. and yes, being part of several compo teams with and without recording in the past, i know the difference very well. and i have also heard every silly argument for and against it, no need to repeat them :)
as said before, i am all for running C64 stuff "live" on the compo setup, let it crash, and then skip to the next entry. as long as complaints from the contestants are directed to you, of course :) |
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