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2009-04-12 06:21
The Phantom

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360
Finding out about old c64 groups....

Hey everyone...

I recently scored quite a bit of .t64's, but that's not my question here..

One of the releases was Zamzara (one of my all-time favorites). So I figured, what the hell and loaded it up. It was cracked by some group or guy called YATTERKING, even has an intro and trained quite well (i think +7 or 8). Does anyone have any information about this person or group, as they are not listed here.

2009-04-12 06:52
Mason

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 459
Ahh you mean the Yattering which were a guy from UK and a special guy. It was Tri-Dos playing hide and seek.

In the last Illegal issue you can read the text about The Yattering
2009-04-12 08:45
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
That would be The Yattering.
Sure it was Tri-Dos? If so, a merge would be in place.
2009-04-12 09:22
Mason

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 459
If you check Issue 38 of Illegal Tri-Dos wrote the following text. As I understand it then Tri-Dos and The Yattering is the same person.

NOBLE CROSSING
When a rumor went around originally started by STEVE of ZENITH that when I was in IKARI I got some guy to always crack games for me. Anyway there was no truth but some people went on about it like even NIK of IKARI. Well I quit the C64 and IKARI and then returned several months later in PANINARO with BAMBAM, PACO, MAGNETIC/USA, FALCO, a guy called YATTERING and myself. And it was myself and YATTERING who done the cracks.
Then rumors started to go 'round again that YATTERING did all the cracks and dickheads like SHARK of INC would go around saying he did all the cracks, and I was just a spreader. Well, he was right! It was both TRI-DOS and YATTERING, the same person and not even the other members in PANINARO know this, so all you people with your false claims were true in their own right, but it looks as if you've been doublecrossed. /PAUL (TRI-DOS)
2009-04-12 16:06
The Phantom

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360
Whenever I do a search here, I always try alternative names (with THE, without). Amazing how I was unable to find this person.
I am a bit depressed that I can't convert the .t64 image though. I will try to upload the file without an image, and let someone else take care of that, even though I dislike doing that (style's dirmaster will convert the t64 to a t64, but not a .d64). I'm not sure why that is, maybe it's something I can ask in the future though.

Since I've been with the c64 (early 1989), I've never seen this group. I thought I scored with the release. Although it's not on 'the base', it will be shortly.

Thanks for your help guys..

PS. I swear the logo in the intro say YATTERKING, not YATTERING!!!! (it was 2am in the morning, that's my excuse)

Zamzara +6
2009-04-13 02:31
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2894
D64 download posted, converted with DirMaster.
2009-04-13 03:31
The Shark-INC
Account closed

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 24
Heh, funny how my claims from 18+ years ago still pop up now and then.

I never fully bought Tri-Dos's explanation but that's the dickhead part of me. :) I'd be interested in what Relax Design members had to say about the matter as The Yattering was in their group in 1988. If they confirm that YAT = Tri-Dos, then the matter is closed in my mind. I've always suspected The Yattering was the man behind the curtain doing the hard stuff for Tri-Dos. This wouldn't be unheard of. Ian of Fusion had one of his mates do most of the cracking while the world assumed Ian was the man, for example.
2009-04-15 00:21
asterix
Account closed

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 30
best way to find out is to read the old mags

l8a

*!/ATA
2009-04-16 05:39
OEP

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 60
I always heard Skreemer was the real leader of INC, Shark was just a poser.
2009-04-16 12:12
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Quote: best way to find out is to read the old mags

l8a

*!/ATA


or to read the articles in http://recollection.c64.org

Issue 3 coming soon :)

2009-04-16 12:23
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 589
Quote: or to read the articles in http://recollection.c64.org

Issue 3 coming soon :)



really? that's awesome!
2009-04-16 16:02
The Shark-INC
Account closed

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 24
You've all been doubled crossed again. OEP (One Eyed Pirate) and myself are the same person, and I am finally revealing this now. One-Eyed Pirate is the name I've given to my penis. Although never a member of INC, it was smart enough to run a BBS. :)

In summary, Shark's Penis = One-Eyed Pirate
2009-04-16 16:55
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2894
\o/
2009-04-16 19:20
Kickback

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 97
god somethings never change LOL!!! I love it tho, people STILL can joke around like this. Do I hear a war demo of OEP "spitting" on a Shark LOL!!

And I mean the penis "spitting" :-)
2009-04-18 14:53
OEP

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 60
The Shark was also known as "The Butcher" because of what he'd
do to his penis every night alone.
2009-04-20 11:40
Tricket

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 97
OK.. Now were at it, DOM was a one man crew. I`ve always had a split personality.

Sorry, had to let it out! =)

L8r,
Jesper / Tricket
-The Dominators-
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Web: http://www.new.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=7920&uid=1116371996..
2015-03-10 18:55
The Yattering
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Registered: Mar 2015
Posts: 3
Quote: Heh, funny how my claims from 18+ years ago still pop up now and then.

I never fully bought Tri-Dos's explanation but that's the dickhead part of me. :) I'd be interested in what Relax Design members had to say about the matter as The Yattering was in their group in 1988. If they confirm that YAT = Tri-Dos, then the matter is closed in my mind. I've always suspected The Yattering was the man behind the curtain doing the hard stuff for Tri-Dos. This wouldn't be unheard of. Ian of Fusion had one of his mates do most of the cracking while the world assumed Ian was the man, for example.


Apologies for the 6 year thread necro :) But after a session of bored googling about my past 'identities', I discovered this thread and other info that has some inaccurate info.


Firstly, things I'm not. I was not the same person as Tri-dos and I'm also not "The Mega Yat" either. I was also not in "Relax Designs", just checking with the demos listed here for Relax Designs show no reference to "The Yattering" at all as far as I can see, so I'm somewhat confused why I'm listed there.

Secondly, I was also A.S.C.I.I. which I believe is listed here too.

And finally, Tri-Dos (Paul). Paul was a friend who lived a few streets from me. He loved the mail trading and the scene stuff, but couldn't code at all and hence couldn't crack. As you surmised, he had someone do that for him, mostly me, but possibly another local friend too. For a good while I was happy to let him take all the credit, because I didn't want to deal with trading and the scene, etc.

But eventually he got far to cocky about the whole thing and I started to insist on some credit, etc and started the Yattering name and joined him in Paninaro, etc. But I was still happy for him to take some credit. But I believe someone in the scene found out, possibly when he had a scene 'friend' (colin/clive?, too long ago to remember for sure) visit him and I met him once and he worked out what was really happening. I have no idea if it was him who leaked it or not, but Paul released that message claiming to be both Tri-Dos and The Yattering to try to stop his credibility from taking a hit and it seems quite a lot of people believed him :)

I have no memory of how/why/when it all ended, but Paul had gotten more and more into drugs and I wanted to have less and less to do with him. To the best of my knowledge he died a few years back, possibly/probably drugs related.

Shortly after all this I moved from cracking games to writing them, which I'm still doing today.
The Yattering
2015-03-10 19:17
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034
What games you wrote? If that's not a secret? Btw. you can link your account to CSDB scener entry.
2015-03-10 20:42
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
thanks for the necro post :) it doesn't matter if it takes years to know a nice scenestory...
oh well, the story is not that nice: are you sure about tridos? that's very very sad. I don't see him in the fallen heroes list; can anyone confirm or bring more news pleez?
greetz! Ze Smasher
2015-03-10 22:32
The Yattering
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2015
Posts: 3
Quote: What games you wrote? If that's not a secret? Btw. you can link your account to CSDB scener entry.

I've only just connected myself back to this old 'handle' and I'm still not sure if I want to associate it with my real life, we'll see.... :)

Thanks for the info on linking my account.
2015-03-10 22:42
The Yattering
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2015
Posts: 3
Quote: thanks for the necro post :) it doesn't matter if it takes years to know a nice scenestory...
oh well, the story is not that nice: are you sure about tridos? that's very very sad. I don't see him in the fallen heroes list; can anyone confirm or bring more news pleez?
greetz! Ze Smasher


Yeah, unfortunately, much of paul's/tri-dos's life had it's sad parts. After leaving the c64 scene, I lost direct contact, but I saw him around town every couple of years, he'd say hello, etc but he was living a life of hard drugs and it clearly showed unfortunately.

As for his death, I'm probably 95-99% sure. It's something like 8-10 years ago now and I only learnt of it second hand, but it was via friends of his family.
2015-03-11 01:15
Six

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 287
I would have sworn that Tri-Dos moved onto the Amiga and was kind of active there for a bit, but my memory isn't what it used to be. Perhaps this is him again trolling us old codgers.
2015-03-11 08:03
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
so Yattering should be merged with A.S.C.I.I. ?
2015-03-11 12:42
Dr.j

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 276
So from the reported here can we say RIP Tridos ? :-((
if true so sad... :-(
2015-03-12 08:11
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 284
So now we have two A.S.C.I.I. sceners;

A.S.C.I.I.

and

A.S.C.I.I.

The last one is created 2 days ago by The Yattering himself.

The Yattering, was A.S.C.I.I. part of The Cult and were you active on the C64 in 1986 and 1987?
2015-03-13 01:38
bepp

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 263
Awesome story! 27 years later the truth is revealed. Someone need to link Tri-Dos with this info.
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