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2016-12-24 10:54
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 479
Release id #152320 : The Bear Essentials +2DP&Map

In my opinion this release should be tagged First Release / Broken because the published original is fully working PAL+NTSC and this one is not. So this is either based on a different original or it is a cracking bug.
It is just how I would judge it.
2016-12-24 15:48
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
different question: why are those cracks not public available? commercial release, yeah. but the authors already uploaded the game on csdb, so it doesn't make much sense to me...
2016-12-24 15:58
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11111
google "micropenis"
2016-12-24 15:59
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
exactly what zesmasher said.
2016-12-24 16:31
Toki
Account closed

Registered: May 2016
Posts: 5
I didn't request this, but I'm grateful that it was requested.
I would say it is respectful to give the game some time to get into peoples hands before somebody else's name is plastered onto the front of it.
Also to let people see it the way it was intended by the author, if only for a day or so.
2016-12-24 21:34
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Agree with Didi, their first version was bugged. The 2nd version from Onslaught is the first release not bugging. The 3rd release by GP is a proper only to tidy up their previous.

Great game!
2016-12-25 07:50
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595
We have been busy celebrating xmas. Answer to the first question: now it's tagged accordingly. The ntsc check was bugged. And we fixed that quick. Not a big thing. At least there were some proper work done and just not a introlink.

Regarding the availability, we respect the request from Pond. I think it's fully reasonable to let the authors spread their version for a day or two. If you really need the crack, get to the boards, or ask us.

Now: Merry xmas, boys and girls!
2016-12-25 09:43
Pugsy

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 5
Merry Xmas everybody.

Now lets set a few things straight....you really should recognise an "introlink" GP have done enough of them in the past (as we have). But this wasn't "just" an introlink as the game was originally in two parts with an ascii loading screen with no docs, its now a single part with docs included in the single part.

Besides which we had access to the game for an hour at 1am ( I waited an hour first ) and we managed to make a non-NTSC-bugging with included docs in a single part "so-called-introlink", GP didn't even manage to do that when you'd had access to the game for a lot longer. Then after you claim "to have uploaded the wrong version", really? If that's the case you should lay off the egg nog...

The fact is that GP should have made the crack entry on csdb soon after the official release - its what we do so that not to waste other groups time when we have early access to a game.

On the matter of "The developers have asked to keep any crack off the public for some days. This release is available at the usual places. Will be uploaded publically soon."
We weren't asked by the developers, I've been asked before not to do cracks of certain games by the developers and I'm more than willing to follow their wishes.
But this wasn't the case here, it seems either you or Mermaid is more than happy to delete our download links as soon as we post them.
Is this is setting a precedent for csdb, or is this just a new rule for games that GP members are involved in?

Surely all great new free games like this also deserve this brilliant new csdb feature.....
2016-12-25 10:41
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 335
I couldn't care less about your stupid "cracking" drama bullshit, but:

From what I was told, the Onslaught version didn't have the download attached either at first, then someone added it.

When they did, I asked Jazzcat on Facebook if Onslaught could please wait a day or two, which he agreed to. After that, someone still kept trying to upload the file, I don't know who that was, but I assume it wasn't someone from Onslaught, since you had agreed to wait.
2016-12-25 11:04
Pugsy

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 5
It's only a drama because of this new situation of a freely available game being ruled as off-limits for a crack by csdb. Is this going to be the new norm then?

I also believe you've got the facts wrong.

Jazzcat made the entry originally and someone deleted the download. It was nobody from Onslaught....it was either Hedning or an admin other than Jazzcat.

Jazzcat uploaded it again

It got deleted again.

Jazzcat made me a mod of the crack so I could upload it if it got deleted.

I uploaded the file again

It got deleted again.

I uploaded it again

It got deleted again

I couldn't upload it again, because you'd locked me of updating the record. And during this time you asked Jazzcat for his agreement to something that was already being implemented.
2016-12-25 11:19
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
True. By the time I left facebook and came to csdb after a chat with Vanja, the file was already not present again :(
 
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