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2017-07-09 20:51
miiro79

Registered: Aug 2007
Posts: 3
Release id #157153 : VBM Renderer 2.0

Sadly simple word created discussion about what it is or not instead how it works.
What is important: words or program?

Later when I release any app I write not any comments and all will user know from download...

These word fights looks like we need weapons, not computers.

Miro
2017-07-09 21:42
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1614
Submitted by Moloch [PM] on 9 July 2017
A portable application (portable app), sometimes also called standalone, is a program designed to read and write its configuration settings into an accessible folder in the computer, usually the folder where the portable application can be found. This makes it easier to transfer the program with the user's preferences and data between different computers. A program that doesn't have any configuration options is also a portable application. This type of application can be stored on any storage facility, including internal mass storage, a file share, cloud storage or external storage such as USB drives and floppy disks—storing its program files and any configuration information and data on the storage medium alone. If no configuration information is required a portable program can be run from read-only storage such as CD-ROMs and DVD-ROMs. Some applications are available in both installable and portable versions.

Portable apps are distinct from software portability, source code written to be compilable into different executable programs for different computing platforms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_application

(and now the comments are closed and will be cleaned up later today)

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Submitted by Compyx [PM] on 9 July 2017
Portability does not mean what you think it means. You seem to confuse 'relocatable on storage on a single OS' with portability.

Portable means the program can run on multiple systems, so for example it would run on Windows, OSX and *nix.

So to release a portable program, either release the source (so people can build their own version on whatever system they run), or release a shitload of binaries for various systems. I would suggest the first, the second option opens up a never ending beerput.

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Submitted by miiro79 [PM] on 9 July 2017
Ok, I released it as exe 'cause it's really only one file req'd.
In menu is help button and there is simple description. I mean it's enough.
But:
Program creates bitmaps for C128 VDC from PGM and PBM binary encoded files for modes written.

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Submitted by Groepaz [PM] on 9 July 2017
whoever invented this meaning of "portable" should be shot :)

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Submitted by iAN CooG [PM] on 9 July 2017
He probably just means it's a "portable app" as in there's no need to install and have it in a particular directory, no ini/registry needed etcetc.
Still, releasing an exe not even zipped with a single line of readme, it's kinda lame.

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Submitted by soci [PM] on 9 July 2017
No, the question was only meant to resolve the confusion about releasing an exe only and at the same time claiming "Program is fully portable" in the summary.

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Submitted by miiro79 [PM] on 9 July 2017
Program is written in Visual Basic 6 - are sources interesant anyway?

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Submitted by dink [PM] on 9 July 2017
Source, please?
2017-07-10 10:08
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 357
Of course, of course but there's also this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_portability

But let's not go into silly arguments.

So the theory is that this software should run without any further dependencies beyond it's executable.

However in practice I get this:
http://singularcrew.hu/temp/ff3b5e8b58812c95e1463619e5cb3418.png

Please upload all dependencies. What if this is the only VB6 app on the system?
2017-07-10 11:33
Adam

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 184
Quoting soci
What if this is the only VB6 app on the system?


welcome to the wonderful world of windows and rarely used dependencies :)

I think OP should be able to produce a 'setup' package that contains all the vb runtime stuff.. but been a long time since I have had to use vb. :)
2017-07-10 11:35
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8152
Portable Installer?
2017-07-10 12:54
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1229
Quote: Portable Installer?

All exe-files starts with PE (Portable Executable). Ironic isn't it? :)
2017-07-10 13:40
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8152
that said, i'd still like to see the source (of course source is always useful, regardless what language something was written in).

(ok i take that back. perl is an exception.)
2017-07-10 18:22
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 194
Quote: that said, i'd still like to see the source (of course source is always useful, regardless what language something was written in).

(ok i take that back. perl is an exception.)


What do you mean, not useful?

http://search.cpan.org/~dconway/Lingua-Romana-Perligata-0.50/li..
2017-07-10 19:25
freℚvibez

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 21
Quote: that said, i'd still like to see the source (of course source is always useful, regardless what language something was written in).

(ok i take that back. perl is an exception.)


I know it's a common joke about Perl's syntax, but just take a look at the Audio::SID module and the SIDedit.pl source - I think they both are very readable.

One surely can hide steganographic information within some obscure Perl scripts, but in my experience that's not the norm. :)

That said - Ruby totally pwns Pypoops ass.

(Let the flamewars begin!)
2017-07-10 19:59
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8152
its not a joke :)
2017-07-10 21:33
freℚvibez

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 21
Yes it is. Hrhr :)
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