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2015-12-02 14:42
Dr.j

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 276
Search CSDB is really unfriendly :(

Hey guyz, i am not talking about the complexity of
the search Criteria options (for Advanced) which i see it really annoying and quite unfriendly , but my advice: why you don't copy my search parameters to "Advanced" . for ex: if i search for a certain release which i don't find in my normal search (type of item+name) and than click the "Advanced" i expect the criteria will be set for my search already. why should i see all the Groups/Release/Events/users and much more Parameters if i from the begining don't search for them. its a but hard to get it. im sorry if i sound a bit harsh but also the sort of the releases is random , instead of sort with latest releases (current date and down - "Desc")
 
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2015-12-03 15:34
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576
Quoting Groepaz
so you are a masochist eh? cant help then, i guess.

Just the opposite. I probably wouldn't be so fucked up if I'd enjoy the deep anal prolapse this site is constantly giving me.
CSDb is like having a once perfect, favorite pair of jeans for a decade which you've wore so long there are now several holes in it and your dick sticks out but you love it so much you just can't trash it.
2015-12-03 15:46
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11147
Quote:
You can't imagine how many times I wanted to say fuck you to the person that had downvoted me, and ask him, why the fuck you hate me? I don't even know you? But I haven't approached him once! Coz that't the burden of being trusted user.

trusted users cant see the hidden votes (which is a shame! =P)
2015-12-03 16:15
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576
CreaMD, I'm simply done being sympathetic and overjoyed about the shit happening around. You know me for years, you know me quote well, you know how receptive I was before. Giving none of the fucks results me pissed up, deal with it.

Secondly, I have never said that only those people made the site who are responsible for the releases featured here, but that you are constantly forgetting and completely ignoring them. Starting with the insane voting system which is still not solved after 14 fucking years regardless of people literally begging for a solution.

Fixing small bugs or adding trivial features isn't a chore to me, nor should be for anyone. I don't think that CSDb needs a rewrite as more or less it works well, it does its job. But the occasional crap that sticks inbetween its teeth and annoys the living shit out of everyone needs to be picked out.

Not giving out the source just because some assholes use the site for pity stuff and we have to protect their identity is outright imbecile. Fill the Db with shit, make a sandbox and give us that then.
2015-12-03 16:20
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11147
for just fooling around with the code you dont need the db at all.... and there is an (oldish) copy of the db with all the sensitive stuff cleaned out right on the svn.... oh well

however, to do significant changes you WILL have to rewrite significant portions of the code, there is simply too much monkey patched and hardcoded shite going on. which is pretty much the reason for why some supposedly easy to add stuff was never added :)
2015-12-03 16:27
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576
Quoting Groepaz
for just fooling around with the code you dont need the db at all....



Quoting Groepaz
and there is an (oldish) copy of the db with all the sensitive stuff cleaned out right on the svn.... oh well

Are you talking about some internal stuff? Because this is the first time I read about this.

Quoting Groepaz
however, to do significant changes you WILL have to rewrite significant portions of the code, there is simply too much monkey patched and hardcoded shite going on. which is pretty much the reason for why some supposedly easy to add stuff was never added :)

According to my experience, it is probably easier and less time consuming to fix/update/maintain old code than to rewrite everything from scratch. Unless it is really really really shitty spagetti.
2015-12-03 16:47
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036
Quote: CreaMD, I'm simply done being sympathetic and overjoyed about the shit happening around. You know me for years, you know me quote well, you know how receptive I was before. Giving none of the fucks results me pissed up, deal with it.

Secondly, I have never said that only those people made the site who are responsible for the releases featured here, but that you are constantly forgetting and completely ignoring them. Starting with the insane voting system which is still not solved after 14 fucking years regardless of people literally begging for a solution.

Fixing small bugs or adding trivial features isn't a chore to me, nor should be for anyone. I don't think that CSDb needs a rewrite as more or less it works well, it does its job. But the occasional crap that sticks inbetween its teeth and annoys the living shit out of everyone needs to be picked out.

Not giving out the source just because some assholes use the site for pity stuff and we have to protect their identity is outright imbecile. Fill the Db with shit, make a sandbox and give us that then.


I will give you two different answers. One in your tone, and one decent.

1. I deal with people having lack of insight (or being completely ignorant) combined with lack of good manners every day, JB. I learned to live with it. And I still enjoy returning back what I get.

2. I was against anonymous voting from the very beginning. I tend to be autocratic, so If I was in charge I would give people chance to remove votes for 14 days and then turn everything transparent. But I'm not in charge so I have to accept what is here. As far as responsibility for anything people request is concerned, I'm still just an user here. User with moderator privileges. I haven't developed a single line of code on this site, so I don't feel I should be blamed for ignoring requests. Although, I'm fully responsible for c64.sk's fall down, and I received a shitload of blame for that recently from my ~friend. Also I take full blame for my organizational fails in compos I have organized. I took an indefinite break from them since the last failure.

Apart from all that. I don't know if you ever tried, but some people communicate with Perff and he responds to them. Sometimes the result of that communication and requests are interesting features helpful for developers of other sites.

In this case. Maybe, instead of replacing advanced search, better option would be to make standalone subpage that could work with existing db and generate results linking to this site Then there could chance to make better search interface without need of touching the old one.
2015-12-03 17:40
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11147
Quote:
Are you talking about some internal stuff? Because this is the first time I read about this.

sure, internal to moderators and a few other people. it was set up after countless months and years of trying to convince perff that there is stuff that needs fixing. and then noone except me even bothered to look at it. go figure ^_^

Quote:
According to my experience, it is probably easier and less time consuming to fix/update/maintain old code than to rewrite everything from scratch. Unless it is really really really shitty spagetti.

as i said, you'll have to rewrite it :)
2015-12-03 18:46
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
Isn't there a csdb2 bundle somewhere on github? :)
2015-12-03 21:26
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 422
Have you not heard of C64 Scene App made by Mr SID? All we need to have an extension of the current API (i.e. to support adding comments) so anybody can make their own client. Amen :)
2015-12-04 07:45
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
even in cracking: spaghetti coding is a tough protection! :)
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