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2023-07-16 15:20
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
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Hosting +4/16/116/PET releases

I wonder if CSDb couldn't eventually host releases for all Commodore's 8biters. Also, TED music is organized into HVTC which could be integrated with search. The biggest obstacle is obviously old, not very moddable site engine but what if? ;) After all it's CSDb, not C64SDb ;)
 
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2023-07-16 15:27
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
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With an exception to C128 not necessarily in C64 compatible mode. So it makes no sense :D
2023-07-16 15:30
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3137
C128 or C64DTV contain a working C64 (or simulate one if you want to split hairs in 4) and that is the only reason they're an exception.
2023-07-16 15:36
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1292
I'd agree but these few releases around here make use of components which cross the boundary - VDC or CP/M to grab the easiest ones. It really is inconsistent from the categorisation pov. Still unconvinced :)
2023-07-16 15:37
F7sus4

Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 112
Vice versa, C64 doesn't "contain" C128, but still there are C128 releases available. That's just wishy-washy logic.

Anyway, the best option for C16/Plus4/VIC20 stuff are probably TOSEC archives right now. But considering that merely improving the voting system took 10+ years at CSDb (which in fact, was barely an increase in minimum votes required to display the average), it sounds like wishful thinking. I mean, at some point during their life, old people start to despise change...

But I like your idea, Jammer.
2023-07-16 15:40
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1292
My main argument would be that these scenes are rather tiny so there is enough room for all and everything in one convenient C= related place. POUET hosts only execs, unfortunately.

I obviously don't count on anything set in motion but it's definitely worth at least a brainstorm with some merit.
2023-07-16 16:46
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 228
I think making separate repository and site that aggregates all those repositories with a modern UI would make more sense (and would probably be easier than making csdb move).
2023-07-16 16:53
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1292
That for sure, from the purely technical pov. But CSDb is also an important scene life hub with whole consistent system of comments, forums etc. What I also imply is that other Commodore segments could be seamlessly integrated and participate in all of these.
2023-07-16 17:20
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 228
Jammer, but you need to put boundaries somewhere. Each person sees those boundaries differently. It is much easier to keep things organised when one tool serves one purpose. Then you can mix and match and use whatever tools you like without cluttering those tools for others.

The feel of CSDB is what it is because the scope is (mainly) c64. There are multi platform demo repositories which have different feel (i don't like them, their scope is too wide for me). Do we really want to turn CSDB into one of those?

AI tools are close, but not fully there yet - we will be able to get super personalised projects for us. One will be able to tell "show me the view of csdb like site with...", and each will be able to fill in whatever he/she wants. We will get personalized books, movies etc. that are according to individual preferences. I might not live long enough to see it, but you will, i'm sure.
2023-07-16 18:21
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1292
@Jetboy: You may've not noticed but I did - otherwise I'd propose Atari xD
2023-07-16 20:25
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 228
But you proposed +4/16/116/PET which are different platforms to C64 :)


Which only proves different people have limits in different places :)
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