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2023-07-16 15:20
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Hosting +4/16/116/PET releases

I wonder if CSDb couldn't eventually host releases for all Commodore's 8biters. Also, TED music is organized into HVTC which could be integrated with search. The biggest obstacle is obviously old, not very moddable site engine but what if? ;) After all it's CSDb, not C64SDb ;)
 
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2023-07-16 21:29
Frostbyte

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 167
Quote: I wonder if CSDb couldn't eventually host releases for all Commodore's 8biters. Also, TED music is organized into HVTC which could be integrated with search. The biggest obstacle is obviously old, not very moddable site engine but what if? ;) After all it's CSDb, not C64SDb ;)

Funny, we were just talking about the same thing last night with Aomeba while watching the AROK stream. It'd be the bestest thing ever if CSDB would become an 8-bit C= hub in general, not just for C-64 (and occasionally C-128 and DTV).

PETs, VIC-20, 264 series... They'd all deserve a single-stop go-to place too. Who knows, maybe it'd boost them as demo platforms as well, if they'd have more visibility and a place to share and discuss their releases.

Yes I know, not worth holding my breath for... But one can always dream, right? :)
2023-07-17 09:14
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 445
Well one could say as rule of thumb:
System emulated by VICE? yes -> CSDb / no -> no CSDb.

Personally I'm undecided on that matter. While there are very nice demos and gfx on C16/+4 which I feel are very close to C64 scene I can easily live without TED music ;-)

From a musicians point of view I'd even prefer Atari / Pokey :-)

In the end I guess this will be another "theoretic" discussion like "Tags" anyway.
2023-07-17 10:50
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2023-07-17 10:53
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2844
Quoting Frostbyte
PETs, VIC-20, 264 series... They'd all deserve a single-stop go-to place too.
Individually, yes, and those exist to some extent.

But why all in the same place? Just because they're somewhat related? And if same place for all, why here?
2023-07-17 11:57
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
main reason for the NO is that CSDb will crash if the thousands, thousands and thousands crackers/cracking-groups from those platforms will be added here :)
2023-07-17 12:14
F7sus4

Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 112
Quote: main reason for the NO is that CSDb will crash if the thousands, thousands and thousands crackers/cracking-groups from those platforms will be added here :)

"Billions and billions", yet it still takes as much as 5-15% of all C64 stuff ever released. ;-)
2023-07-17 12:54
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Quoting Smasher
main reason for the NO is that CSDb will crash if the thousands, thousands and thousands crackers/cracking-groups from those platforms will be added here :)

Must be ironic as I cannot imagine these thousands, actually ;)
2023-07-17 13:16
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11116
Quote:
System emulated by VICE? yes -> CSDb / no -> no CSDb

Time to remove xplus4 then :D
2023-07-17 19:43
Frostbyte

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 167
Quote: Quoting Frostbyte
PETs, VIC-20, 264 series... They'd all deserve a single-stop go-to place too.
Individually, yes, and those exist to some extent.

But why all in the same place? Just because they're somewhat related? And if same place for all, why here?


Pretty much for convenience. With all its curiosities and flaws, CSDB is still a very functional site to a) add releases, b) rate them, discuss about them, and discuss everything around making them. And of course to follow which events are upcoming etc. I've probably said it before in some previous conversation, but IMHO one of the key factors why C64 scene is so prolific is that we have a single place to go to, so it's really easy to see what is happening, and be seen when you have an urge to create and release something. Can't say for certain of course, but I'd think other C8 scenes would benefit from the same. Not saying that we'd e.g. suddenly see thousands of VIC-20 releases per year, but even just a few per year would be a nice boost to the scene of less-loved.

Anyway, I know C64SDB won't be upgraded into CSDB, so all this discussion is purely hypothetical and thus pointless. :)
2023-07-17 20:19
Frostbyte

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 167
...one more for the road: how about copying CSDB, drop all data, change any C64 references to e.g. VIC-20 references, change categories, change HVSC refs to VIC-20 equivalents if there is one, etc, and finally change the logos and colour theme a bit, and host it under vic20.csdb.dk or elsewhere. Hey presto, a brand new dedicated site for VIC-20. Rinse and repeat. This way a minimal amount of actual code would need to be touched.

(yes I know there'd be plenty of little details to take into account not mentioned above, but you'll get the rough idea)
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