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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 1055 |
HDMI upscaling on a budget
I love my CRT to death, but sometimes a more compact option is needed. Does anyone know of an HDMI upscaler that doesn't cost $400, outputs 50 Hz without artifacts or dropping frames, and shows aspect correct 4:3 with black bars on a 16:9 display? The $30 converters on eBay are crap. Specifically, has anyone tried these KanexPro converters? http://www.kanexpro.com/converters/composite/ |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 1055 |
Quote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygDLpQfsCag
Whoa that looks perfect! Here's hoping it'll do PAL as well.
http://www.retrotink.com/#Products |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 1055 |
Quote: Whoa that looks perfect! Here's hoping it'll do PAL as well.
http://www.retrotink.com/#Products
Mike Chi replied: "The RetroTink 2X will be capable of doubling PAL sources to 576p50." 👍🏼 |
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Dano
Registered: Jul 2004 Posts: 226 |
Quote: Mike Chi replied: "The RetroTink 2X will be capable of doubling PAL sources to 576p50." 👍🏼
Oh nice to hear!
Did he tell something about when this device will be available and for what price?
Still it will be interesting how my Beamer or receiver will deal with a 576p signal as the smoothing of the S-Video sucks big time quite some times.. |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 1055 |
No, I didn't ask - it's a hobby project so I guess it'll be ready when it's ready. Check out his YouTube channel, he seems to post updates when there's progress.
Every projector I've checked has official support for 576p50 so I don't think compatibility will be an issue. |
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Dano
Registered: Jul 2004 Posts: 226 |
Quote: No, I didn't ask - it's a hobby project so I guess it'll be ready when it's ready. Check out his YouTube channel, he seems to post updates when there's progress.
Every projector I've checked has official support for 576p50 so I don't think compatibility will be an issue.
I know my beamer can handle it, it also displays my normal c64 svideo signal. Yet the image get some sort of awkwardly upscaled making the square pixels round'ish.
Need to check how my receiver with its component input deals with the image interim.. |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 1055 |
Many upscalers do indeed suck, but with a scandoubled signal they should at least suck half as bad. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 3034 |
Ok I have another very ignorant question.
I have 1920x1200 samsung tv/monitor with video input. I connected my C64 using scart and what I see on screen is sort of textured and blurry. It is usable for e.g. composing and playing, but I can't imagine doing pixelling om that. It doesn't look like sharp pixels, nor PAL.
How the Framemeister handles this? And how does retrotink does it? I wish I could use any PC monitor and have either clean sharp screen (as from emulator) or something that is capable of look like PAL screen (or both - switchable).
I have never seen output from this kind of convertors. So that's why I ask. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 3034 |
Ok I checked the video (two guys talking about framemeister). It looks impressive. Hmmm. Now question is. Is Retrotink as good too? For ~1/3 of money?
I checked this video (c64 with retromeister). Ok now I get it I think. It's worth the mnoney it seems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cNk4FQ7aWQ |
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Fix
Registered: Feb 2003 Posts: 54 |
Will be interesting if The RetroTink 2X is the shit... |
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Deev
Registered: Feb 2002 Posts: 206 |
Quote: Ok I checked the video (two guys talking about framemeister). It looks impressive. Hmmm. Now question is. Is Retrotink as good too? For ~1/3 of money?
I checked this video (c64 with retromeister). Ok now I get it I think. It's worth the mnoney it seems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cNk4FQ7aWQ
Taper wrote an article in Attitude which might also be useful.
http://www.cactus.jawnet.pl/attitude/?action=readtext&issue=15&..
I will maybe try and take some photos that show how it looks. It isn't perfect, because the C64's output isn't perfect, but it looks much better than going directly into my TV. It handles 50hz motion very well too, although that's not really something I can demonstrate. |
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