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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
VSP = HSP and HSP (Linecrunching) = VSP
I don't know what scene genius decided that VERTICAL SCREEN POSITIONING should describe the effect of moving the screen HORIZONTALLY (and vice versa with HSP/Linecrunching) but it's been bugging me like forever... Isn't it about time we used the correct terminology?
Discuss! 8)
P.S: In Crest, we barely ever called it VSP and HSP, Crossbow just calls the effects "Wanker" (yes, seriously, from german "wanken", meaning to sway left & right - our english wasn't all that great back then!) and "Linecruncher"! ;-) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3142 |
https://csdb.dk/release/?id=6176&show=trivia#trivia
Variable, not Vertical =) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5031 |
while we're at it linecruncher doesnt crunches lines but whole char rows, so from now on we should call it ROWCRUNCH, and FLD -> FRD |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Quote: https://csdb.dk/release/?id=6176&show=trivia#trivia
Variable, not Vertical =)
But nobody calls it "Variable". Not even Wikiedia does (which has it the right way around btw! ;-)
Also, "HSP" would still not make sense..
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_VIC_II |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5031 |
right nobody calls it variable, we call it VSP, stupid name, I have to remind myself its variable and not vertical. but it will stay with us till the grave :) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3142 |
Seems like you are creating the problem yourselves. Whoever wrote the V stands for Vertical is wrong, just ignore the error and while at it, fix the wikipedia if it bothers you so much. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2856 |
Quoting iAN CooGSeems like you are creating the problem yourselves. Whoever wrote the V stands for Vertical is wrong, just ignore the error and while at it, fix the wikipedia if it bothers you so much. Indeed, Wikipedia is worth shit for C-64 stuff. And so is Reddit. And yes, scene terminology was always shit, too. =) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11154 |
LOL @ "Not even Wikiedia does"
"Wanker" is a term invented by "64er", btw - and it means something different - generally moving a logo (or GFX) left and right - not necessarily using DMA-delay (which is the proper term) :)
(also FLI is "Flexible Line Interpretation", not "Interpreter") |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 578 |
Wait… I thought FLI was Flexible Line Interpolation? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11154 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1382 |
I mean, I called VSP "Johnscroll" for years, because my first exposure came from being in the same room when John West (of 64doc) independently stumbled across the effect.
(this was in early 1989, but neither of us were aware of prior art at the time - we were just "why the fuck has this raster routine we're running in the background confused BASIC into putting the starts of lines halfway across the screen???") |
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