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2023-07-18 20:16
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
VSP = HSP and HSP (Linecrunching) = VSP

I don't know what scene genius decided that VERTICAL SCREEN POSITIONING should describe the effect of moving the screen HORIZONTALLY (and vice versa with HSP/Linecrunching) but it's been bugging me like forever... Isn't it about time we used the correct terminology?

Discuss! 8)

P.S: In Crest, we barely ever called it VSP and HSP, Crossbow just calls the effects "Wanker" (yes, seriously, from german "wanken", meaning to sway left & right - our english wasn't all that great back then!) and "Linecruncher"! ;-)
 
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2023-10-26 11:03
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Whoever comes up with a routine gets to name it, no matter how stupid the name is. With some exceptions - Sodan called it "Multi Scrapper Screen Scroller," but the scene decided that it was better to just call it the TechTech effect.

Talking about "Wanker," that's what I knew VSP as in the old days as well. When I wrote an article for 64'er in 1992 about AGSP I also used the term Wanker, which they happily printed. Afterwards I wrote to them again with some other suggestions for articles, but never heard back for some reason. Later I realized what wanker meant and figured that the 64'er staff might also have realized it, and therefore deemed me untrustworthy for using naughty words. :-)
2023-10-27 00:02
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 617
Hah, that's pretty funny. Probably true too why they didn't take anymore articles from you.
2023-10-27 07:01
Monte Carlos

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 351
Names are to confuse people. Get rid of names. ;)
2023-10-27 09:01
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 886
Quote: Whoever comes up with a routine gets to name it, no matter how stupid the name is. With some exceptions - Sodan called it "Multi Scrapper Screen Scroller," but the scene decided that it was better to just call it the TechTech effect.

Talking about "Wanker," that's what I knew VSP as in the old days as well. When I wrote an article for 64'er in 1992 about AGSP I also used the term Wanker, which they happily printed. Afterwards I wrote to them again with some other suggestions for articles, but never heard back for some reason. Later I realized what wanker meant and figured that the 64'er staff might also have realized it, and therefore deemed me untrustworthy for using naughty words. :-)


I still remember that article!
2023-10-27 09:38
zscs

Registered: Sep 2010
Posts: 45
Quote: I still remember that article!

Wich 64'er Magazine was that? I would read some of those technical articles. :-)
I found only this from 1992 at archive.org: https://archive.org/details/64er_produktfuhrer_1992-01
2023-10-27 11:21
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
September 1992, Page 58, "Profi Corner"
https://archive.org/details/64er_1992_09/page/n57/mode/2up

The headline "Der geniale Trick" is something they came up with btw. :) I wrote it in English since my German skills were, and still are, very sucky, and then this Peter Klein dude translated it. So I blame any errors in the article on the translation. The lame code I gotta take responsibility for though, but hey, I was just 17 at the time.
2023-10-27 13:07
zscs

Registered: Sep 2010
Posts: 45
Quote: September 1992, Page 58, "Profi Corner"
https://archive.org/details/64er_1992_09/page/n57/mode/2up

The headline "Der geniale Trick" is something they came up with btw. :) I wrote it in English since my German skills were, and still are, very sucky, and then this Peter Klein dude translated it. So I blame any errors in the article on the translation. The lame code I gotta take responsibility for though, but hey, I was just 17 at the time.


Really cool, thanks! <3 <3 <3
2023-10-27 14:47
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 421
Quote: September 1992, Page 58, "Profi Corner"
https://archive.org/details/64er_1992_09/page/n57/mode/2up

The headline "Der geniale Trick" is something they came up with btw. :) I wrote it in English since my German skills were, and still are, very sucky, and then this Peter Klein dude translated it. So I blame any errors in the article on the translation. The lame code I gotta take responsibility for though, but hey, I was just 17 at the time.


I <3 "wanktiming" :) Jolly 17 yo's xD
2023-10-27 18:58
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Quoting WVL
I still remember that article!
Amazing :D

Quoting Digger
I <3 "wanktiming" :) Jolly 17 yo's xD
I'm cringing so hard. Sorry, 64'er, for disgracing your fine publication!
2023-10-27 20:54
Monte Carlos

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 351
I remember that article, too. But in that time I did not understand the code nor have I been in the scene at that time (but shortly after). I would have liked to type the code in and assemble the whole part like in the picture.
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