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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
VSP = HSP and HSP (Linecrunching) = VSP
I don't know what scene genius decided that VERTICAL SCREEN POSITIONING should describe the effect of moving the screen HORIZONTALLY (and vice versa with HSP/Linecrunching) but it's been bugging me like forever... Isn't it about time we used the correct terminology?
Discuss! 8)
P.S: In Crest, we barely ever called it VSP and HSP, Crossbow just calls the effects "Wanker" (yes, seriously, from german "wanken", meaning to sway left & right - our english wasn't all that great back then!) and "Linecruncher"! ;-) |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 575 |
Wait… I thought FLI was Flexible Line Interpolation? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11147 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1381 |
I mean, I called VSP "Johnscroll" for years, because my first exposure came from being in the same room when John West (of 64doc) independently stumbled across the effect.
(this was in early 1989, but neither of us were aware of prior art at the time - we were just "why the fuck has this raster routine we're running in the background confused BASIC into putting the starts of lines halfway across the screen???") |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Quote: I mean, I called VSP "Johnscroll" for years, because my first exposure came from being in the same room when John West (of 64doc) independently stumbled across the effect.
(this was in early 1989, but neither of us were aware of prior art at the time - we were just "why the fuck has this raster routine we're running in the background confused BASIC into putting the starts of lines halfway across the screen???")
Yeah, I also stumbled across it by chance when I was hacking around in Cosmos' AFLI displayer and suddenly the whole screen was shifted! ;-) |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Quote: Quoting iAN CooGSeems like you are creating the problem yourselves. Whoever wrote the V stands for Vertical is wrong, just ignore the error and while at it, fix the wikipedia if it bothers you so much. Indeed, Wikipedia is worth shit for C-64 stuff. And so is Reddit. And yes, scene terminology was always shit, too. =)
No need to fix it - cause it's correct, it quotes VSP as vertical screen positioning and HSP as horizontal! ;-) |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Quote: LOL @ "Not even Wikiedia does"
"Wanker" is a term invented by "64er", btw - and it means something different - generally moving a logo (or GFX) left and right - not necessarily using DMA-delay (which is the proper term) :)
(also FLI is "Flexible Line Interpretation", not "Interpreter")
Wow, I did not know that... Sure that 64'er didn't just get it from Crest demos? 8)
P.S: Wasn't a swinging logo also called "TicToc" at some point? |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854 |
Quoting DeeKayWasn't a swinging logo also called "TicToc" at some point? You're probably referring to "tech-tech", which originated with https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=4445 and refers to being able to move lines horizontally independently from each other. A step up from "wanker". =) |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Err - no, I wasn't. And thanks for the eggsplanation what TechTech is, I totally didn't know! >:-) |
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Mr. SID
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 423 |
Don't we all remember what a rabbit hole trying to fix Wikipedia can be...? :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11147 |
It was 64'er - Hannes Sommer would be my guess (who often came up with this kind of articles).
I also remember "Tic Toc" being "Tech Tech"... no idea where i have seen that used though.
Quote:cause it's correct, it quotes VSP as vertical screen positioning and HSP as horizontal!
It's about as "correct" as FLI being "Funky Loud Intermediates" :)
Is that "Rasterzeileninterrupt" dude still active? Perhaps he can fix it! |
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