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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627 |
Demo records and world firsts
Hello!
From time to time discussions appear here about demo effect records or when some VIC-trick were first invented and by whom, and so on. Even if this is not the only thing that demos "are about", it is clearly an important aspect (historically) of the art of demomaking. Still, I find it a bit curious that it hasn't been documented in a more systematic way (until now?).
Therefore I made a (close to empty) "shell" for an article about this, and now I encourage you all to fill in the blanks and correct the mistakes:
http://codebase64.org/doku.php?id=base:demo_world_records_and_w..
Check it! Fix it!
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Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
@Frantic: Please, no "claimed dates". A lot of people claimed they did sideborder before 1001 crew. But none released it. If there is no release, it does not count. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: @Frantic: Please, no "claimed dates". A lot of people claimed they did sideborder before 1001 crew. But none released it. If there is no release, it does not count.
Yep, was the first thing that came into my mind as well. Claiming is unproven territory ;) |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627 |
ok |
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Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
@TDJ: Not only that. There's also a wrong assumption: If you say "but I did it 2 weeks before demo XY" then you ignore the fact that a demo needs to be actually coded BEFORE it is released :) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: @TDJ: Not only that. There's also a wrong assumption: If you say "but I did it 2 weeks before demo XY" then you ignore the fact that a demo needs to be actually coded BEFORE it is released :)
True, true .. I remember when Compyx made a dycp over FLI somewhere in the early 90's, but when it finally was released in Not Worthy) Censor had their version already out. Still I always took in account that that one could already have been a few years old as well ofcourse ..
The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding is an official release data ;)
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Rost
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 22 |
Quote: Also, I added links to most of the entries there now. I couldn't quite figure out exactly which prod this refers to:
Flash/FCG: Intro
Release: 1985-10-11
(For being the first to open upper/lower border.)
Anyone?
Also quite astonishing that almost none of the CSDb pages of these demos actually mention anything at all about the "world firsts" they contain.
i think this one is the right one...
Flash XI |
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Rost
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 22 |
Quote: Mega Jive wasn't released in 1986. If you read the scroller more closely, then that 1986 date refers to a date when the coder claims to have done a certain routine, but didn't release it until this demo. It was released around march 1987.
the game "the vikings" was released before march 1987 and contains a "10 points" fullscreen FLD coded by Thomas Larsen. Tiger Misson also, released 01.03.1987.
Tiger Mission + |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627 |
Info added. Please edit the page directly if you got info on these matters:
http://codebase64.org/doku.php?id=base:demo_world_records_and_w.. |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
Quote: the game "the vikings" was released before march 1987 and contains a "10 points" fullscreen FLD coded by Thomas Larsen. Tiger Misson also, released 01.03.1987.
Tiger Mission +
The game wasn't released on March 1st, but the Hotline crack!!
Both games were probably published in February, but I'm not sure, Danish release dates could be shortly earlier, but I doubt it. |
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Wile Coyote
Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 637 |
"Demo records and world firsts" got me thinking.
Its all very well having a world 1st list/database, but what about a chart of effects done best (ie with more style), as firsts arn't usually the best.
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