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2023-10-08 20:11
mankeli

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 110
Release id #236084 : Yes, you are all wrong

But is it the "cultural marxism" what this prod refers to?

My understanding is that it's a actually an American conspiracy theory. From Wikipedia:
Quote:

The term "Cultural Marxism" refers to a far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory which misrepresents the Frankfurt School as being responsible for modern progressive movements, identity politics, and political correctness.

The conspiracy theory posits that there is an ongoing and intentional academic and intellectual effort to subvert Western society via a planned culture war that undermines the Christian values of traditionalist conservatism and seeks to replace them with culturally liberal values.


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2023-11-15 09:39
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 491
Quoting Raf
they moved toward minorities "laws" or BLM then what's next goal, laws for animal "lovers"?

if you feel insulted ASK QUESTIONS.


You just put ‘bestiality’ in the same list as e.g. the black minority..
I have no more questions.

(Nirvana of civilisation == equal rights for all)
2023-11-15 10:14
Raf

Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 343
Quoting Sander

You just put ‘bestiality’ in the same list as e.g. the black minority..

I have question: what do you mean by 'bestiality' in this context? and why black minority? black minority != BLM.

"...we are not against minorities, we are against intrusive propaganda..."
2023-11-15 10:23
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854
Quoting Raf
they moved toward minorities "laws" or BLM then what's next goal, laws for animal "lovers"?
You mentioned bestiality in all but name. And that is already not covered by laws, but the absence of prohibition in many jurisdictions including some EU states.
2023-11-15 11:53
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 628
Quote: Quoting Raf
they moved toward minorities "laws" or BLM then what's next goal, laws for animal "lovers"?

if you feel insulted ASK QUESTIONS.


You just put ‘bestiality’ in the same list as e.g. the black minority..
I have no more questions.

(Nirvana of civilisation == equal rights for all)


There will never be equal rights for all as long as we have a hierarchical society based on wealth and power. Conversely we can't because not everyone has the same capacities for things.

Better to stop fighting about it and celebrate differences than lack of sameness or fitting in with someone else's idea of how people should be and making unrealistic expectations based on naivete.
2023-11-15 15:59
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 449
Quoting Fungus
There will never be equal rights for all as long as we have a hierarchical society based on wealth and power. Conversely we can't because not everyone has the same capacities for things.

For someone who doesn't want to be involved in politics in his spare time this is quite a good analysis of what goes wrong :-)
2023-11-15 16:02
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 118
@Raf
Maybe you, considering yourself a free thinker, can answer yourself this:
How come you and most people here that agree with you and your views happen to be from Poland? Coincidence? Could it possibly be the case of you not being such free thinkers you think you are after all, but in fact regurgitating PiS propaganda? Did this ever occur to you?
2023-11-15 18:10
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 118
@Fungus

Quote:
Better to stop fighting about it and celebrate differences than lack of sameness or fitting in with someone else's idea of how people should be and making unrealistic expectations based on naivete.

Basically, I couldn't agree more.
However, do tell, how do you "celebrate differences" with something like this:
"In honor of our great Veterans on Veteran's Day, we pledge to you that we will root out the Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and Radical Left Thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our Country, lie, steal, and cheat on Elections, and will do anything possible, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America, and the American Dream. The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave, than the threat from within. Despite the hatred and anger of the Radical Left Lunatics who want to destroy our Country, we will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"
Insert the country/cause instead of America at will...
2023-11-15 21:54
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2083
Quote:
by "political correctness" I mean general direction (not CSDb censorship!) of today's world

Raf, I could follow your "Minorities - Check your privilege vs. Why Should Majority Adapt" line of argument.

And I also do have problems with 'wokeness' time and again, just normal as we all grew up totally differently from what is seen as p.c. today.

However, I beg you just consider, we _DO_ have sceners whose way of life probably is some way of LTBTQ and/or endure racism ...
... and then reflect how they might feel after reading
Quoting Raf
they moved toward minorities "laws" or BLM then what's next goal, laws for animal "lovers"?

You needn't like whatever movement and you're entitled to your own opinion. But mentioning minorities such as BLM and consenting human(!) adults' sexual orientation in the same sentence with actual goatf---ers, come on... ain't that an own goal, disqualifying whatever reasonable arguments you gave before?
2023-11-17 01:04
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 505
Quoting 4gentE
How come you and most people here that agree with you and your views happen to be from Poland?

Please don't attach nationality to this, as there is not one country that is homogenic as for the views. Observe our last elections that are kind of redemption ;)

By the way, I strongly urge people using terms like "wokeness" or "political correctness" to educate themselves a bit with the history of those terms, and understand how their meaning have been hijacked by the far right.
"Woke" is a term appropriated from Afroamericans and its original meaning was completely different, and "political correctness" have itself gone through at least 2 changes of the meaning since it's creation ;)

Many people complaining about political correctness are just assholes that don't want to face consequences of the bigoted vile things they are spewing. They just want to openly hate whoever, but quickly get triggered like fucking snowflakes if someone calls them fascists or stereotype their nationality or religion, for example. You are not brave, you are just dicks.
2023-11-17 01:12
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
And many people who are in favor of wokeness and political correctness use it as an excuse for censorship. You're not helping anyone, you're just tyrants.
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