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2017-11-27 12:05
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
HDMI upscaling on a budget

I love my CRT to death, but sometimes a more compact option is needed. Does anyone know of an HDMI upscaler that doesn't cost $400, outputs 50 Hz without artifacts or dropping frames, and shows aspect correct 4:3 with black bars on a 16:9 display? The $30 converters on eBay are crap. Specifically, has anyone tried these KanexPro converters? http://www.kanexpro.com/converters/composite/
 
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2018-08-03 10:25
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Time to revive this thread, as I received a RetroTink 2x from the first batch the other day. We're using it together with the OSSC at Datastorm 2018, so if you're curious check it out in the compo booth and the screens at the party (or the live stream, it will be a direct feed from HDMI this year). Quick summary:

• Composite/S-video/component to HDMI
* Pass through (240/288p), line double (480/576p), or filtered (emulator style, bleh)
* PAL & NTSC
* Virtually lag free at ~300µs latency (~5 scanlines)
* Can be daisy chained in pass through mode into an OSSC via a VGA adapter, to add scanlines and other tweaks
* Low pass filter on the input gives the image a fairly smooth look, but individual hires pixels are visible.

If the device could be flashed to default to s-video on power up and the LPF brought down a notch, I'd declare it near perfect. Even so, I'd say this is clearly the best option available for upscaling the C64 right now.

It'll be sold for £79 at videogameperfection.com and you can read the specs at http://www.retrotink.com/

VGP's review: https://www.videogameperfection.com/2018/07/23/retrotink-the-ve..

PS: The Amigas and other RGB devices at the party are upscaled with the OSSC.
2018-08-03 17:04
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
I'll buy one for sure if it passes the Datastorm test! :)
thanks MagerValp!!!
2018-08-03 17:12
oziphantom

Registered: Oct 2014
Posts: 478
So it can handle a PAL C64, good to know, thanks.
2018-08-06 11:07
Jope

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 25
MagerValp, what is the horizontal output resolution of the RetroTink 2x?

My recipe is a Sony YR-1000 + OSSC, because that way I can get 1:1 c64 pixel vs HDMI pixel mapping.
2018-08-06 19:34
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
I’m not sure, check with Mike Chi in the vgp forum.
2018-08-07 09:49
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
Were you happy with the RetroTink 2x at Datastorm?
2018-08-09 09:22
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Yes, though I have to play a bit more with it before my final verdict. I could only stay until 9pm on Friday and missed most of the party, but it performed well until then.
2018-08-10 19:40
Mr.Ammo
Account closed

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228
The stream looked like cam-quality. Did you use this new device as a source for the stream like you announced a few post earlier?
2018-08-11 12:45
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
SceneSat couldn't get their capture card to work, so they set up a cam instead.
2018-08-11 13:57
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595
I took MagerValp's place and ran all C64 stuff on Datastorm and I am very happy with the quality of the picture. No apparent jerky pic, lag or other disturbing stuff.
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