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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 501 |
Release id #88112 : Heil Hitler
This release kicks off a needed discussion about introducing any 'sensitive' (in many meanings of that word) material to this database.
Once again, there should be some rules about such things. Example - besides the above release - is stuff that is offensive to some sceners, done by other sceners in bad taste and certainly not good intentions... I also have some things like this in my collection, but uptil now decided not to share it.
Can we maybe appoint some general approach to this?? |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
I hate it when people don't get my lame jokes :(
On a more serious note: it could have very well been a real WWE member, we had some shady Germans* in our group back then. Don't recall the demo you mentioned though, never even heard about it until now.
* shady Dutch & Swedes too. |
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Ventura
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2006
Posts: 67 |
So you hate it when people don't get your lame jokes.
I'm not in the mood for humour right now, if you don't mind.
Not to mention: your reply sounds "shady", indeed, it ruins my sense of humour.
Let's get serious then: it wasn't a demo but a nazi-game, does this make sense to you?.
Well, it didn't make sense to me at that time, but it happend.
So much for lame jokes, goodluck "getting away from the real word" i'd say. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: So you hate it when people don't get your lame jokes.
I'm not in the mood for humour right now, if you don't mind.
Not to mention: your reply sounds "shady", indeed, it ruins my sense of humour.
Let's get serious then: it wasn't a demo but a nazi-game, does this make sense to you?.
Well, it didn't make sense to me at that time, but it happend.
So much for lame jokes, goodluck "getting away from the real word" i'd say.
Who says anything about getting away from the real world? I don't mind that you take things here way too seriously, but don't pretend to know me, okay?
And just in case you don't get it: I don't condone those actions by that guy, I just said it was possible he could actually have been a WWE member. We had some rotten apples in our crew back then, that's all. |
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tnu
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2010
Posts: 42 |
Quote:I don't mind that you take things here way too seriously
...i repeat my self.....this is not the right place for this discussion....and..yes...people do take this too seriously... |
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Paul Bearer
Registered: Dec 2007
Posts: 13 |
Actually, lots of C64 stuff is still on the German index:
Games like Beach Head, Raid over Moscow, Green Beret, Desert Fox, Friday the 13th and tons of others (eventhough most will surely get scratched at the 25-year re-evaluation as it has happened with Speed Racer).
Also demos and graphics collections - Swedish Erotica (banned for pornography since May 1987), Pure Byte's Sex Cartoons, racist stuff like Anti T. Test... it's a long list.
CSDb could easily be put on that list ten times over for distributing banned material with the stuff we have here right now, but I'm pretty sure they have different priorities, i.e. they don't give a fuck about 8-bit stuff. :) |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576 |
Yes please, delete it! And while we're at it, go on and remove all the releases which propagate communism, several Wrath releases come to my mind. Up to my knowledge, the red star and the hammer&sickle are also forbidden symbols in several countries. I demand from you to be offended by the ~100.000.000 death toll of communist regimes!
*sigh*
My close relatives who were killed by communists are laying in mass graves, still you don't see my crying in vain to take down Courtesy of Soviet, do you?
So as long as I don't see you getting up for take down those releases, shut the fuck up and continue with whatever you were doing before this discussion.
Gotta adore double standards.
P.S. by the way, wasn't this Ogami guy also painting Lenin and/or commie related stuff later on? Or I'm mistaking him with someone? |
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Ben
Account closed
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 163 |
Hiding obvious references to sensitive topics from index bots or even anonymous users might be the way to go. Say, once one or several sceners have flagged it as such.
This would not hurt the historical archive but prevent (1) arbitrary outsiders from getting offended and (2) careers (et cetera) of the creator -who might have been plain ignorant at the time- from being harmed. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576 |
If the releases are not conflicting with laws of the area where the site is served from, then leave everything as-is and add a disclaimer. Problem solved, fuss over. No one sane will become a nazi, communist or satanist by watching 10+ year old C64 demos made by ideologically/religiously confused teens. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11116 |
add a disclaimer? to what exactly and why exactly? |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1576 |
Sorry Groepi, I've missed the fact that such a disclaimer - although a bit poorly worded, - already exists. Not sure how would this hold up in court once an idiot decides to sue CSDb or Perff because of an animated vector swastika or a a multicolored underage tit (seen stuff here which would easily pass as CP in the eyes of some), but that's not my problem all right.
Anyway. It's Friday. All of you, finish your work and go drinking. |
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