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mankeli
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 134 |
Message for 4agentE
Thanks a lot for derailing the thread. I was just writing you a message that you should start behaving. You can be as autistic you want (your own words) but please stop acting like this is a matter of life and death.
I would have been happy to continue the discussion about the actual real timelines of things instead of that bullshit.
Also CountZero, how about a warning first? |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 679 |
Pretty sure the "scenes" if you can even call them that, had crossover, were both going on in parallel and you forget the the third "scene" which was game programming. Now there is evidence that's pretty easy to nail down with the third one as things were released commercially, and demonstrating your talent to get a job at a software house is likely where the word demo came from. Or perhaps demos of games you made, to get the lucrative deal with mastertronic or ocean in the UK.
I wish TMR was here... as a user of compunet he could fill in some gaps, but sadly he is not.
People were making pictures with doodle and stuff very early on, I remember local boards that were quite old (running on a PET) that had downloads of such things. So there was user groups and stuff too where people were learning about the c64 and some of course began to code and make art.
Everything was probably happening all at once.
Intros are more remembered because wares spread far and wide a lot more than passive demos, because people bought a c64 to play games or do work of some sort and not to make demos, so I think it's probably correct to think demo scene came out of games, both coding scene and cracking scene. It was not some entirely different entity that is pure and just as much as Krill would like that to be the case. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2957 |
Quoting FungusIt was not some entirely different entity that is pure and just as much as Krill would like that to be the case. Really, i never said such a thing. How can i make it any clearer that my main gripe is the "cracks first, then demos" (on a scene level, not individually) thing here, and not some weirdo alt-history "demos were delivered to us by the gods" thing? :) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5084 |
"demos were delivered to us by the gods"
good title for a demo :) |
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