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2024-07-23 13:59
mankeli

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 134
Message for 4agentE

Thanks a lot for derailing the thread. I was just writing you a message that you should start behaving. You can be as autistic you want (your own words) but please stop acting like this is a matter of life and death.

I would have been happy to continue the discussion about the actual real timelines of things instead of that bullshit.

Also CountZero, how about a warning first?
 
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2024-07-23 15:44
mankeli

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 134
Maybe we can discuss about thread post timelines on another thread? Let's not here. I thought the crackerscene / demoscene origin discussion was topical atleast, atleast until it was just arguing.
2024-07-23 15:48
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11327
Quote:
his personal crusade he leads in other places

please elaborate
2024-07-23 15:49
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 206
I was totally oblivious of CompuNet at the time. That’s the reason swapping was my only source of demos along with the cracks. When I heard about CompuNet later it seemed like science fiction to me. At the time I thought the only use for modems was to dial US warez BBSs using stolen calling card numbers. So if indeed there was a whole demoscene outside mailswapping scene active on CompuNet, I never knew.

P.S. Mankeli, I wish you named this thread differently.
2024-07-23 15:51
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 206
Quote:
please elaborate

Not here. I (seem to) have done enough derailing.
2024-07-23 15:57
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2957
Quoting chatGPZ
It was popular enough for me to get c-net stuff on tapes in germany, 85ish. with zero contact to "swappers" or "scene".
Interesting! How did you get those tapes? Schoolyard? Kiosk? "Public domain" mailorder? =)
2024-07-23 16:07
mankeli

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 134
Yeah CompuNet indeed feels like science fiction. :D And sorry, I hope the mods can rename the thread.

It also kinda follows the trend that lots of these "new ideas" were invented a lot earlier but the other infrastructure around (technical and social) them was not there yet. Was CompuNet focused on computer arts or was it more business oriented?
2024-07-23 16:20
macx

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 253
Can this need of defining something organically grown out of intellectual creativity where individuals spur social/dialectical play please become more civil. There is not one answer (apart from the one presented by Hedning - whom forgot to mention Folke Filbyter) and believing so is as naïve as when people of jurisprudence try to use their incommensurable narrative upon e.g. the natural sciences. Live and let live. Phree pints at the Boar.
2024-07-23 16:21
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 206
@Mankeli
Indeed. Like Lucasfilm Games’ Habitat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitat_(video_game)

I only heard about that like in 2000 or something.

P.S. I’m obviously too stupid to make this upper link work.
2024-07-23 16:42
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5084
" I wonder if the C64 demoscene did start by trying to imitate stuff seen on Amiga?"

why does the demoscene has to start by copying from the cracking or the amiga scene ? so other scenes can invent things on their own, but god forbid the c64 demoscene could do it ?
2024-07-23 16:51
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11327
Quote:
How did you get those tapes? Schoolyard?

Typical schoolyard "piracy", no direct scene connection. (I only learned some years later that Florasoft went to the same school as i did)
Quote:
Was CompuNet focused on computer arts or was it more business oriented?

It was kind of like the early internet - it was designed so users can create their own "pages" (like websites) where they can publish their own content. And many used it to post samples of their work (aka demos) in order to get some attention from potential publishers/contractors.
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