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2009-11-18 06:54
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Votesystem FAIL

OK, so why the vote system still exists, especially after all the devastating things it produces, is absolutely way beyond me.
It's rarely a representation of an objective, summarized opinion of the community. Either it's a playground for immature ding-dong fights I've had the luck to experience the last time in kindergarten, or it's simply a place for good old fashioned circlejerks.

I second Scout. At least I second the notion that this isn't really a place where I'd like to spend my spare time.

The constant pop-ups of topics considering the defecting vote-system is clearly a sign of something not working here the way it should. And yet, the cry ups keep getting ignored. For years.

Captain obvious is here to present you two options. One is to finally fix it, the other is to remove it for good. The latter one would be probably the best for all of us. And I think I'm speaking in the name of 99% of CSDb users here when I say that. Time to realize we are not IMDb with hundreds of millions of users, where a similar voting model works (more or less). Here, it's flawed and it simply fails on many, many levels

Pretty pretty please. Dudes who make and administer this site. Your work is fucking damn appreciated. I'd suck of all of you without a single second of consideration.

But for fucks sake.
 
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2009-11-24 15:41
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677
Quote:
ASAP!

nothing to fear...
2009-11-24 16:00
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493
Quoting giant bee
You are all idiots.
2009-11-24 16:16
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
thanks to ed for pushing the discussion into a more useful direction...

i think he showed the problem quite well. there are maybe a few hundred people who actually vote (and not even half of them vote regulary or even a lot) and then there are ten-thousends entries (if we count scener- and group- and whatever entries too, probably hundred thousend already) in the database.

i like the "favourites" idea myself too... but i dont know if its a good idea to actually replace the voting system with it, because to get meaningful numbers out of it it would require *more* people to maintain their favourites list than it currently requires people to vote. it will certainly work better for "charts" - and at the same time work a lot worse than now for individual entries.
2009-11-24 16:29
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
before i forget it, i had another silly idea the other day, which some people might like however :o)

what about weighting someones individual votes by the max value of what the got voted for their own releases ? like... if someones best rated release got a 6, he can vote 5+/-3 ... if someone has a release rated 10, he gets the full range, etc.

it might give some interisting numbers atleast :)
2009-11-24 18:16
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
Haha, that's the most interesting voting proposal I've heard in a long time.
2009-11-24 18:29
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677
So only losers are allowed to downvote?
What's new? :)

About fav-list, why REPLACE the old system?
2009-11-24 18:38
assiduous
Account closed

Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 343
Quoting Groepaz
it might give some interisting numbers atleast :)

aswell as csdb accounts of rob hubbard,martin galway and afew other highly voted sceners :)
2009-11-24 18:42
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
"About fav-list, why REPLACE the old system?"
well, before we introduce completely new features, we should fix whats there :) making it completely seperate and additionally to whats there wouldnt gain much imho, and not fix anything at all :)
2009-11-26 21:17
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
Thrust Concert [1986]

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=2094


this demo is heavily upvoted!! something not working here the way it should. And yet, the cry ups keep getting ignored. For years!!!!!!!!!!11111
2009-11-26 21:24
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
that entry got 10 freaking votes, cant see how any "upvoting" is involved there. quite the contrary is true, applying some of the "logic" suggested in this thread, this entry could just aswell serve as an example of downvoting.

no really. with just 10 votes you cant tell either. the numbers are simply meaningless, no more no less.
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