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2010-01-07 21:25
Carrion

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317
all the magic just goes away

with this video....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5Dn-WaElI
I was hoping somehow that Liam/The Prodigy does the sounds himself.
But know all my religion is wasted...

It's somehow like with Timanthes... You never know what is converted and what is origianl - right ? ;)
 
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2010-01-10 16:55
Street Tuff

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 88
Quote: outer space is the best one from them for me. :)

i prefer the original!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORJBFI_OLdU
2010-01-10 17:32
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
Quote: i prefer the original!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORJBFI_OLdU


the "original" is 2 lines from a sucky boring reggae, I wouldnt listen to it for 20 seconds, not 20 years like in the case of prodigy's one(and counting)
2010-01-10 18:50
Deev

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206
Quote: i prefer the original!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORJBFI_OLdU


I agree
2010-01-11 09:12
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1646
Everybody is in the place (not the album version)
2010-01-11 11:19
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
Actually for me that video does not kill Liam Howlett's magic, it rather helps to illustrate it! ;-D

Prodigy rocks, always has, always will! Experience is still my fave album, but I really dig their back to the roots approach on the new album, too! If you dig Prodigy I should mention that there's a lot of B-sides that are quite cool, i collected all their singles ever since Jazzcat once sent me a tape with rare prodigy stuff (which was mostly B-sides!)

Speaking of Prodigy on CSDB i should mention that i find quite a few things on their new "Invaders must die" album rather "SIDish": Omen & Omen Reprise, Colors, Warrior's Dance (hell yeah! Promo version only though!). And I swear to god that Liam used a Hubbard-Drum at the end of "Phoenix" on "Never Outgunned"! ;-D

P.S: Does he sing "I'm the king of migraine" or "I'm the king of margarine" on "Phoenix"? <:-)
2010-01-11 13:46
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Indeed, the magic isn't killed, it is revealed!
Cool stuff, very inspirational.

Also, like others said, it's not how he DOES it, it's how he CAME UP with it that makes it original.
If you like it, is another ball game.

And oh, perhaps Ableton didn't exist, but you can do this with any wave editor and a few plugins.
2010-01-11 18:32
chancer

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346
Quote: probably there was a reason that prodigy made it and not the others. ...and that was not marketing, marketing does not make good music, prodigy does.

it gets really silly, just like when people try to claim amiga/atari (8bit)/speccy failed bcoz of marketing...


thats the whole point.. it WAS marketing.. I grew up in the area this "sound" was kicking off in , know some of the pioneers... if your telling me ya know of know of prodigy's first album and not other labels

e.g. shut up and dance.. warrior dance was once I was visiting when I was 17 , so 20 years ago.. they were doing the "prodigy" sound LONG before prodigy were..

just because they aren't well known out of london / UK then thats part of it.

fast forward to that punk electro sound.. well yer liam listed to the pistols etc.. but go listen to the edgier tech step sound etc. also..

Liam did get lucky with the song Charley.. he knows how to crate dig , his engineering is good, but others were better at the time. i.e. what they did with the equipment (samplers) and not just the sound aspect.

If you were in London in 88 / 89 then cool, but not some 3rd party "rose tinted glasses" version that got told later.
2010-01-11 18:46
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Some year ago or so I posted here on this forum that everyone steals and borrows and that Rob Hubbard were a great prove to this. A lot told me that I were a fool stating something like this... well... were I? To me it is cool that he used the tunes and melodies and inspirations he did because of that he made it special for me in my little life. It is about creating really fun projects for oneself to be occupied in, that is the whole point with life I guess. If it is dull and no fun what is the point then? What is fun for one is fun for him even others think it is really horrible to do so...

About that prodigy thing... I think that tune they released there were so cool, and with the video to it it were just one of the coolest things that year... Thumbs up... even now when I see all that sample thingys I think it were almost even more splendid show of creative force, and man, maybe one dude played around with different samples and created that, how cool is that? Very cool I think! We all do the copycat thing in a way or another I guess... on a level we all do it... Sampler scanner photo painting poster sound use of elements or inspiration, a feeling something gave me, a mood, a moment, a style or what... where do one draw the line? Where is it taken from something else? Where is the bar for where it is original or not, creative or not? I do not know!

2010-01-11 19:09
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1646
Couldn't help wondering if PAL has reflected upon the fact that a substantial number of people here are/was pirates/crackers/swappers etc. It is not like stealing stuff is never heard of, or so. :)

No offence, PAL (of Offence. ;) Just had to point it out.
2010-01-11 19:25
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
I have often reflected upon the fact that a substantial number of people here are/was pirates/crackers/swappers etc. and it is so strange to me the harsh words often stated here... magic all gone my arse!
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