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SIDWAVE
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Multispeed sounds in 1x
Try and listen to GRG's X compotune Club 69.
It's 1 speed ! :-)
Hahahaha
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Soren
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yes ofcourse it is :-)
Good sounds can be done in 1-x speed too you know ;-)
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Luca
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An insane hate against multispeed tunes beholds me, dunno why. Many times I thought I had to compose a multispeed tune, and many times I turned back to 1x.
Dunno why, I like multispeed tunes very much, but when I load the editor, it seems so...unsporting! XD |
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SIDWAVE
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It seems you misundertstood me Jeff. I meant to say, it sounds like 2x, but it's not. How to do this ? pulse ? |
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Inge
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Rambones, it looks like this:
Channel 1 is playing the lead voice, but without vibrato. Channel 2 is a copy of channel 1, but has an additional vibrato. This makes it sound like 2x.
Simple, but effective ;-) |
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Ben
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Michael Winterberg's instruments have their own speed.. and, yes, you only have to call the play routine a single time.. |
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Steppe
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Bah, that's what I call cheating... ;-) |
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Bamu®
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Quote: Try and listen to GRG's X compotune Club 69.
It's 1 speed ! :-)
Hahahaha
I really like this toone. :) |
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Soren
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@Rambones: afair, it's just some detuning of some sort. |
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McMeatLoaf
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Quote: Rambones, it looks like this:
Channel 1 is playing the lead voice, but without vibrato. Channel 2 is a copy of channel 1, but has an additional vibrato. This makes it sound like 2x.
Simple, but effective ;-)
To me, it sounds rather like channel 1 and 2 are a bit detuned, just like Jeff said (chan 1 has a bit lower pitch than chan 2). |
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Bamu®
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Quote: @Rambones: afair, it's just some detuning of some sort.
detuning is allways a nice thing, since it makes the sounds cooler. :) |
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VIC
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Quote: detuning is allways a nice thing, since it makes the sounds cooler. :)
I'll have to detune my sounds like crazy then... I want my tunes to be über cool!!! |
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Jammer
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there are many tricks to make 1x sound like multi. for example some tricks with synchro in drums and you have this little tail in snare typical for 2x multi :) (which sounds in particular like tel's rubicon and similar ones) and so on and so forth :)
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Soren
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but still, detuned sounds, do NOT particulary sound like multispeed sounds :-) |
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chatGPZ
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multispeed in your pants! \o/ |
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Laxity
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Quote: An insane hate against multispeed tunes beholds me, dunno why. Many times I thought I had to compose a multispeed tune, and many times I turned back to 1x.
Dunno why, I like multispeed tunes very much, but when I load the editor, it seems so...unsporting! XD
Same here... I dunno why either! |
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Bamu®
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Quote: but still, detuned sounds, do NOT particulary sound like multispeed sounds :-)
Yes thats true. :)
It's even possible to make multispeed sounds that sounds like 1x speed. |
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Quote: Same here... I dunno why either!
Hmm, I have also noticed this phenomenon. Somehow to me 1x feels more 'innocent', somehow more simple I guess. Also I feel I can just start composing and focuse more on the music .. if I make multispeed, I am starting to have some kind of greed or lust for sounds 'having' to sound multispeed, which distracts me from composing itself and makes the result utter garbage. So I guess I will stay in 1x for now until I figure it all out and am somehow able to freely compose multispeeds without letting it get in my way.
- Monk |
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Bamu®
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IMHO everything faster than 1x speed sucks.
Some composers really like to detune their multispeedsongs in a quite odd way. :-I |
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Yodelking
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Quote: IMHO everything faster than 1x speed sucks.
Some composers really like to detune their multispeedsongs in a quite odd way. :-I
At least I'VE been amazed by some multispeed tunes out there:
/VARIOUS/A-F/Blues_Muz/Gallefoss_Glenn/GRG_in_Cyberspace.sid
/Tel_Jeroen/Rubicon.sid
/VARIOUS/A-F/Comer/For_Fatum_Party_1.sid
/VARIOUS/M-R/Praiser/Theptak_The_End.sid
/VARIOUS/S-Z/Shogoon/Asphyxia.sid
Jammer's latest tunes are also really cool!
But then again, I'm probably easy to amaze... |
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Bamu®
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Quote: At least I'VE been amazed by some multispeed tunes out there:
/VARIOUS/A-F/Blues_Muz/Gallefoss_Glenn/GRG_in_Cyberspace.sid
/Tel_Jeroen/Rubicon.sid
/VARIOUS/A-F/Comer/For_Fatum_Party_1.sid
/VARIOUS/M-R/Praiser/Theptak_The_End.sid
/VARIOUS/S-Z/Shogoon/Asphyxia.sid
Jammer's latest tunes are also really cool!
But then again, I'm probably easy to amaze...
Sure, f.ex Jammers 'Big_Beat.sid' is quite amazing but there are a lot of tunes that sounds crippled (The instruments from "Rubicon" sounds (mainly the snare instrument) quite trashy, but the music is OK). :-I
1x speed sounds more humane. :) |
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DRAX
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Damn, you're really critical... Considering when Rubicon was made - the sounds are quite amazing. The music itself is totally awesome... I guess taste differs... |
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Bamu®
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Quote: Damn, you're really critical... Considering when Rubicon was made - the sounds are quite amazing. The music itself is totally awesome... I guess taste differs...
Well, the tune is OK.
But some of the todays sceners make quite trashy sounding multispeed songs. (It's mainly because of overdrawn instruments) |
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Hate Bush
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trashy sound has its certain charms too. just like in real music. |
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Bamu®
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Quote: trashy sound has its certain charms too. just like in real music.
Hmm, yes maybe. |
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Dane
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Quote: Sure, f.ex Jammers 'Big_Beat.sid' is quite amazing but there are a lot of tunes that sounds crippled (The instruments from "Rubicon" sounds (mainly the snare instrument) quite trashy, but the music is OK). :-I
1x speed sounds more humane. :)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
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ptoing
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Just checking here, nata, didn't you quit the scene? |
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Bamu®
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Quote: Just checking here, nata, didn't you quit the scene?
:P :) |
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Tch
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Well,it is all just a matter of taste but Jeff\Dunes_K_Remix (2000) simply rocks on my real C64! |
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Bamu®
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Quote: Well,it is all just a matter of taste but Jeff\Dunes_K_Remix (2000) simply rocks on my real C64!
Any worse examples? |
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Steppe
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/VARIOUS/M-R/Nata/Shockwaves.sid
Probably the worst example how to mess up a 12x speed tune. |
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Bamu®
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Quote: /VARIOUS/M-R/Nata/Shockwaves.sid
Probably the worst example how to mess up a 12x speed tune.
Hmm. This was my first 12x tune. Instruments are OK, but the song.... :-I
And btw: Probably the worst example how to mess up a Soundmonitor tune. (even the instruments are stolen)
VARIOUS\S-Z\Schmid_Stephan\Invincible_remix.sid |
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DRAX
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Nice filter hihat, Stephan |
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Steppe
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The basedrum and snare is stolen from Michael Detert, correct. The rest is mine, including the hihat. ;-) |
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Bamu®
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Quote: The basedrum and snare is stolen from Michael Detert, correct. The rest is mine, including the hihat. ;-)
Nice to hear. :)
Of course your other songs are quite nice to listen. :) |
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Bamu®
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\VARIOUS\A-F\Dos\Zu_Ende.sid
!!! quite a cool song.
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