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2023-11-03 03:48
NoiseEHC

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 51
World Record Database

Hi!

Is there anybody who knows if there is some kind of world record database? If there is none then are there people interested in creating one in a wiki? I am thinking about creating a paragraph of the effect description of "every" demo ever released (which have world records or new effects of course), and to group the effects into categories. For example "sprite multiplexers" would be a category, listing record numbers/years going up to Crest's 120/170 sprite records (each one a link to the respective demo).

Anybody interested?
Thanks,
Noise/EHC
 
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2023-11-03 10:56
NoiseEHC

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 51
Quoting Krill
Now... which one of those is Best (TM)? They're all legit records, but, strictly speaking, each in their own category.


You do not have to decide which one is best. You just have to list all of them on a wiki page.

For me it would be interesting to know whether something has been done or not, before making another world record. I just cannot remember all the effects from all a demos.
2023-11-03 11:05
NoiseEHC

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 51
Quoting Gordian
Hello!

https://www.atlantis-prophecy.org/recollection/?load=world_of_d..
https://codebase64.org/doku.php?id=base:demo_world_records_and_..

Probably not very often updated both.


Thanks, exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately these are very sparse and out of date... :)
2023-11-03 14:07
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854
Quoting NoiseEHC
You do not have to decide which one is best. You just have to list all of them on a wiki page.
My point was that "all of them" would be quite a long list, with very similar things and rather few contestants in each category.
That, or you'd lump together separate categories and arbitrarily pick a winner.

Quoting NoiseEHC
For me it would be interesting to know whether something has been done or not, before making another world record. I just cannot remember all the effects from all a demos.
You could also just ask on this forum for a list of similar things to what you have in mind, then decide if it's worth to try surpassing them. =)
2023-11-03 14:30
NoiseEHC

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 51
Quoting Krill
My point was that "all of them" would be quite a long list, with very similar things and rather few contestants in each category.
That, or you'd lump together separate categories and arbitrarily pick a winner.


I understand you. But I need exactly that long list. Still no point to pick winners. Btw it would not be that long. There are not too many serious coder groups, and there are not that many demos either. I would guess the grand total would be <1000 entries for <200 demos.

Quoting Krill

You could also just ask on this forum for a list of similar things to what you have in mind, then decide if it's worth to try surpassing them. =)


Yeah, that is exactly what I want to avoid... ;)
2023-11-03 14:35
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 422
What I would like to see/create would be more like a lookup DB for demo effects.

When you type "sprite plexor" you would get all CSDb demos with that plus info on quantities, screenshots etc.

A bit similar to Plus4World where every demo has a list of fx incl. graphics modes etc.
https://plus4world.powweb.com/software/Rocket_Science

E.g. if you look for "plasma":
https://plus4world.powweb.com/effects/Plasma

Give it 1-2 years and AI would do most of that work =)
2023-11-03 14:49
Scrap

Registered: Jan 2021
Posts: 14
I am with Digger. Records or not, would be interesting to have a searchable database of who did what and when... We are getting old and sometimes it is hard to remember: "hey, where did I see that effect???" Also, would be good, before boasting, to check if you are really the first with an effect... ;-) But this database would be a whole lot of work with all those demos out there...
2023-11-03 15:03
NoiseEHC

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 51
Quoting Digger
What I would like to see/create would be more like a lookup DB for demo effects.


Exactly. However I would prefer a wiki format, as searching with google is much better usually...

Btw that is a nice site for +4.
2023-11-03 15:54
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854
Quoting NoiseEHC
Quoting Krill

You could also just ask on this forum for a list of similar things to what you have in mind, then decide if it's worth to try surpassing them. =)
Yeah, that is exactly what I want to avoid... ;)
But why. Afraid that someone would pick up your idea and beat you before you even started?

Quoting NoiseEHC
Quoting Digger
What I would like to see/create would be more like a lookup DB for demo effects.
Exactly. However I would prefer a wiki format, as searching with google is much better usually...

Btw that is a nice site for +4.
This works well only for a specific and rather outdated style of demo.

Also note how the effects in Rocket Science are somewhat messily lumped into rather broad drawers, and how only the free form notes give some detail. (And the "parameters" column is almost useless.)

Demos have long evolved past simple effect shows and record contests, with the better of them featuring elaborate hybrids and combinations of the basic "effects" of old.
2023-11-03 16:07
NoiseEHC

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 51
Quoting Krill
But why. Afraid that someone would pick up your idea and beat you before you even started?


Because I would like that way better.

Quoting Krill
Demos have long evolved past simple effect shows and record contests, with the better of them featuring elaborate hybrids and combinations of the basic "effects" of old.


Demos evolved in a way that now compos can be won by things which were called "filler" parts in the past. There are so many Powerpoint Presentations today that just having a list of real world records would be awesome...
2023-11-03 16:15
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854
Quoting NoiseEHC
Because I would like that way better.
"Okay."

Quoting NoiseEHC
Demos evolved in a way that now compos can be won by things which were called "filler" parts in the past.
Now you have piqued my interest. Care to elaborate? =)
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