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2009-01-07 15:59
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847
The sid stealing continues! ...

... and this times it's not Timberland, but Frankmusik:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWDLsuPK280&feature=related

Jeff/ViruZ identified at 2:20 that it's his "caste camelot.sid" playing right there in the new release "3 Little Words"!

Frankmus(uck)'s myspace channel: http://www.myspace.com/frankmusik

I'm really ashamed of my people! :/
 
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2009-08-13 12:32
NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231
Quote: Let's sample from Timbaland's new cd, and put on some stomping crappy non filtered 1983 sid drums and waveform 51 bass!

His lawyer would sue the hell out of you... :)
2009-08-13 15:28
booker

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 334
On the other hand, I'm wondering how many SID musicans actually ever asked the originall authors of SID convertions they did for any kind of permission.

For ie. I've asked none :-| shame




Jeff: no video, no chicks. Make a video! ;-)
2009-08-13 15:33
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
Booker: But I need chicks for a video! ;-)
2009-08-13 17:51
NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231
Quote: Booker: But I need chicks for a video! ;-)

JSL can make you some piccy chicks in no time I guess ;)
2009-08-13 19:09
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 271
Jeff: I would love to dress up like a chick and be one of many stars in your video... WOW... that is a feature I really would find different... ha ha something else... If we get the best flesh of the scene to pose too it will be really memroable this one... maybe vanja can be the spesial surprise at the end of the video? all of us revealing our gourgeus computer bodies and then she reveils too... and it is the real macoy... ha ha... would be sexy in a good way... ha ha...

Your PAL

2009-08-14 17:03
Tim
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467
hmm.. i'll put my money on JSL's graphics rather then see that ;)
2009-08-25 04:06
SIDWAVE
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
http://www.enfant-terrible.nl/enfantX.htm

They take, they must pay. Now sue his ass and walk laughing down to your bank! :D
2009-08-25 06:31
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493
Quote: http://www.enfant-terrible.nl/enfantX.htm

They take, they must pay. Now sue his ass and walk laughing down to your bank! :D


http://chipflip.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/another-sampling-contr..

'We' kinda came to an agreement with the label. This is a result of it.
2009-08-25 07:02
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
Damn, he sounds like a bad copy of Gary Numan.
2009-08-25 09:06
da Blondie

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 6
Quoting Groepaz
chaotic copyright? anyone who creates something automatically owns the copyright to his creation. end of story.


Well, although certainly not chaotic, the situation is definitely muddy.

Take HVSC, for example: while I am aware that they got express permission from some composers I am pretty sure that they do not have proper permissions for distributing much of the collection (that's only to be expected, given how the rights of many old games seems to be in Limbo). In the case of the scene musicians you could argue that they gave their permission implicitly or something like that (there's your chaotic state) but this certainly does not hold for commercially released stuff and HVSC certainly breaks copyright in many cases. Still, everybody is cool and no legal action is taken against HVSC - which is somewhat suprising, because when it comes to complete games (which have absolutely the same copyright protection as musics) the situation is wastly different, see lemon64 that carries only a few games which they are expressly licensed to distribute.

So yeah, while the legal basis is as clear as it is, the actual practice tends to ignore the law to a degree and there's some uncertainnes what is considered to be OK and what's not.

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