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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
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Group id #223 : Protovision
There are some entries from Protovision that should be deleted from the database.
Those entries are commercial releases (without a downloadlink) and not scenereleases.
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-= Silicon Ltd. =-
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Commodore 64 Scenemusic Podcast
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MacGyver
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Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 149 |
CLiPS (beta preview) was actually not commercial but released for free on one of the cover disks of GO64! magazine.
The magazine itself was not free of course, but that's another cup of tea.
Some ppl have strange opinions here, like something which is not free can't be scene. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11163 |
there are probably a lot more people who find it strange that someone considers commercial games scene releases :) |
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MorGorr
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Registered: May 2002
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What I find strange is that in the CSDb, introlinkers are generally more a lot more likely to be credited for a "release" than the original game creators even in the case of freeware games, but that's part of the concept it seems. Judging from the ever-repeating discussions about what's scene and what's not I also suspect this concept will never change.
I decided long ago to meet this with an I-don't-care attitude: Since this database honours introlinkers in the same way as game creators (or even more), the whole thing is a bit meaningless to me. There is no group entry for More.Gore Software, nor are there any entries for none of my original releases (both freeware and payware) and I don't feel too motivated to open them either.
PTV should do the same: Why should you care? After all, having entries for the PTV payware originals means being at the same level as the retard introlinking scene. This is not a game creators' database. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:This is not a game creators' database.
exactly |
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TNT
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Registered: Oct 2004
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Shouldn't Commodore Christmas Demo be removed too. "The perfect holiday gift - only $595"... |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Quote: Shouldn't Commodore Christmas Demo be removed too. "The perfect holiday gift - only $595"...
That's not made by PTV. ;)
P.S.: German sceners and their personal animosities... |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11163 |
Quote: Shouldn't Commodore Christmas Demo be removed too. "The perfect holiday gift - only $595"...
if you check the rules, you will notice that we made an explicit exception for commercial demos. simply because they are somewhat of a curiosity, and because there are so few of them. (that is very different with commercial games) |
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d0c
Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 186 |
Quote: Shouldn't Commodore Christmas Demo be removed too. "The perfect holiday gift - only $595"...
you read what Groepaz said, eh?.... now eat your words! :P |
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MorGorr
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Registered: May 2002
Posts: 47 |
The rules say that a crack is basically any modified version of an existing game even it does not add any value, and that the CSDb "very much prefers" freeware "cracks" over the originals that are "available anyway" although they understand that some individuals started to release original games directly to the scene, which could therefore exceptionally be considered scene releases.
The rules also state that whining about the rules is prohibited.
Well let's get out of here then. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036 |
Quote: The rules say that a crack is basically any modified version of an existing game even it does not add any value, and that the CSDb "very much prefers" freeware "cracks" over the originals that are "available anyway" although they understand that some individuals started to release original games directly to the scene, which could therefore exceptionally be considered scene releases.
The rules also state that whining about the rules is prohibited.
Well let's get out of here then.
Good point. I also think that games that are released directly to the scene are scene releases. (And cracks and introlinked versions of such games are extremely pointless (except of when improvement, trainers, and such things add the value to the original game, and than only when the game seems to be finished by the author who doesn't seem to be willing to release any other versions))
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