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Dwangi
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 130 |
dentro vs onefiledemo
I noticed that there are one category for dentro and one for onefiledemo... so what is the difference?
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HCL
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 727 |
I don't know who is to answer, but to me "Dentro" is the most stopid word in the demo scene since "Trackmo".
Let's just have this one up for a second. "Trackmo".. The first time i read that word, i think it was supposed to indicate that the current demo was using a track-loader, which probably was something new at that time. To me a demo is a demo, why categorise from the loader!?
Hmm.. categorise.. is that inglisch? ;) |
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 273 |
I guess it is the evil work of pc/amiga guys.
They invented more strange stuff like e.g. cracktros.
I am only aware of demos and intros anyways, I am too lazy (and stupid)to learn all that new age ghetto slang stuff .-D
let is belong to where it came from (the dessert)...
just my lame 2 eurocents
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Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
i agree with HCL that "dentro" is quite a stupid invention of a name/category. however, the "trackmo" term makes sense. demos have started as onefilers mostly and when the people flooded the scene with them they started to gather those onefilers into "megademos". however, trackmos are not an "extension" of the megademo concept, it's something different. megademos not more than collections of many small demos, while a trackmo is just one very big demo. so it makes sense to have an own category for this kind of demos.
PS. yes slator you're right. most stupid categories are inventions of the amiga scene, mostly the bbs scene as i see it. "invitro", "bbstro" or simply "intro"... i never liked the term intro used for demos. for me a 4k demo stays a demo even if it is just 4k. an intro in my understanding is linked to some other product. |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
From http://gopher.quux.org:70/pygfarm/dict.pyg%3F/jargon/DEFINE/den..
"dentro /den'troh/ [{demoscene}] Combination of {demo} (sense 4) and {intro}. Other name mixings include intmo, dentmo etc. and are used usually when the authors are not quite sure whether the program is a {demo} or an {intro}. Special-purpose coinages like wedtro (some member of a group got married), invtro (invitation intro) etc. have also been
sighted."
The way I see it, and from the way I've seen it used in the C64 scene, "dentro" would be used to describe a onefiled demo with consistent design and fluid transitions. Usually has one piece of music throughout the demo (possibly with the addition of a separate tune for the end). One of the main points though: You don't press space to skip parts, the dentro proceeds to the next effect/part on its own.
A dentro is also a onefiledemo...But a onefiledemo isn't always a dentro. Most onefiledemos usually consist of a bunch of demo parts linked together in a seemingly random fashion, new tune in each part, with long pauses while decrunching new parts (and often ugly $0400/$d020/$d021 "effects" while decrunching). You normally have to press space to see the next part.
To use some examples (that you probably haven't seen yet so go download them now if you want): I'd call Oldskool/Creators a onefiledemo and TRIP/Creators a dentro.
As for "new" (hmm...1993?) words being "stopid" and the evil work of Amigasceners and all that, sure... If only people had thought like that before, then our collective vocabulary would still consist of the word "uggh" and a few other grunts and screams. Ah, the good old days.
I also find it strange that the guy who just gave the scene the word "trashmo" should find the words "dentro" and "trackmo" so stupid. |
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Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
"dentro /den'troh/ [{demoscene}] Combination of {demo} (sense 4) and {intro}. Other name mixings include intmo, dentmo etc. and are used usually when the authors are not quite sure whether the program is a {demo} or an {intro}. Special-purpose coinages like wedtro (some member of a group got married), invtro (invitation intro) etc. have also been
sighted."
this fits it best i think.
vanja wrote:
"The way I see it, and from the way I've seen it used in the C64 scene, "dentro" would be used to describe a onefiled demo with consistent design and fluid transitions."
this is how some easter sceners put it, but looking at a lot of amiga "dentros" makes me think that the upper definition fits way better.
the reason why some people believe that the way of transitions and design makes a onefiler a "dentro" is because amiga demos have a more trackmo-like design in general. so if some amiga group makes a smaller demo it still looks some way like a trackmo. however, this is not the meaning of the word dentro, the word dentro is just there to fill the non-existant gap between full size demos and small demos (which btw don't need to be onefile, i've seen several amiga demos which are called "dentro" which are indeed smaller trackmos...). |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
Guess that makes me an easter scener then. Does this mean I have to dress up as a bunny and distribute chocolate eggs to people? I hope not. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
it would for sure be attracting for some though :o)
other than that....intros are linked to something else, usually a crack (and they are not crackmos...argls...mercy). anything else is simply demo. |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
Anything? Slideshows and music collections too? Just curious. |
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Matt
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 597 |
Quote: I guess it is the evil work of pc/amiga guys.
They invented more strange stuff like e.g. cracktros.
I am only aware of demos and intros anyways, I am too lazy (and stupid)to learn all that new age ghetto slang stuff .-D
let is belong to where it came from (the dessert)...
just my lame 2 eurocents
yeah, agreed!
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Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
Quote: Anything? Slideshows and music collections too? Just curious.
slideshows and music collections are ofcourse categories which are reasonable to have. slideshows and music collections have way different focus than other demos. |
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