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2014-01-21 21:16
Raf

Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 343
Bomberland - illegal copy

http://allegro.pl/cartridge-bomberland-c64-i3907160321.html

here you can buy illegal copy of bomberland game, description says "Rom został zakupiony w firmie RGCD i użyty tylko w tym cartridgu ."

it means: "ROM was bought on RGCD and used only in this particular cartridge"

cartridges are sold by this guy: 11111olo

what do you think about it?

photos:
http://www.sendspace.pl/file/pic/1cae9bf5a79045b7ea7f380/view
http://www.sendspace.pl/file/pic/ca50d79db5b29c4ae5439bb/view

rest of cartridges are fake new-old-stock clones of Polish famous cartridge Black Box.

Prince of persia can also be seen - is it okay to sell it?
2014-01-21 21:38
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
beats me why anyone would want to spend real money on a knock off bomberland. If you don't want to pay for it, its available easily on the net for free. if you want the cart then you are probably a collector and surely would want the full monty with all the posters and box art etc.

as for PoP, he's a braver man than either Andreas or myself as neither of us fancied chancing our arm and selling that one. Being as how Disney own the copyright and they are renowned litigious bastards.

I can see that there would however be a market for a "proper" PoP cart with box and manual, and indeed would like to see that one myself. however it comes back to lawsuits and Disney again...
2014-01-21 21:39
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187
oh wow, someone is doing illegal copies of c64 stuff, that is some news ;)
just spread the word and make sure ppl are not buying from this guy.
2014-01-21 21:55
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2218
For sure, rather silly idea to make any profit, since in this scene people who shun buying originals altogether know how to get hold of a crack online without paying anyting.

Almost everyone who knows about the game and wants to buy it, will go directly to RGCD homepage, anyway, though, and even non-collectors such as myself who do not want the full package, rather spend 2 bob for an original download and thus, support the developers (with however little money), change a couple of header bytes and flash it to EF instead of paying 60 zsloty for a bootleg cartridge.

So I guess, Samar & RGCD can more or less ignore that.

However, I guess very(!) few buyers might be confused due to it's being offered in Poland which is also base country of Samar. So it seems alright to warn collectors.
2014-01-22 04:39
Rough
Account closed

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829
To make cash of pirated software sucks.
2014-01-22 08:38
Sounx
Account closed

Registered: Dec 2006
Posts: 30
I think it's a pathetic way to make money over the backs of uninformed people, with limited access and knowledge of internet, who want to play a game on their old computers.

Additionally, it's a shame that the productions from the people behind RGCD are shamelessy misused for own profit. Regardless of the fact that on our old machine illegal software is more or less the standard rather than the exception, I still think it's very wrong to make money like this from the hard work of others.

It's a disgrace and I hope they get shut down asap.
2014-01-22 13:02
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847
Looks as though he uses black carts with a cut-out sticker, where officialy published carts are orange. So at least we can detect which ones are legal or not.
2014-01-22 13:59
Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424
As far as I'm concerned, the C64 version of Prince of Persia is public domain, you can download it right here. It's therefore also ok to sell it, if anyone can make a profit from that, I'm fine with it.
You can already buy EasyFlash cartridges with PoP pre-flashed, there's hardly any difference to this.
2014-01-22 14:40
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
lol
2014-01-22 14:57
Mclane
Account closed

Registered: Jan 2014
Posts: 16
Never made a penny from any of my hacks or cracks on the Atari 8bit, don't believe in it, swapping I have no issue with but making cash out of someone's hard work just tips my morals meter.

Ok swapping someone's work isn't exactly perfect but it happens and always had, thankfully as well as most of the gear would have been long gone instead of archived.

A sad old ex collector of 5 & 1/4 squares things, now just their digital versions.
2014-01-22 15:58
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513
Quote:
Almost everyone who knows about the game and wants to buy it, will go directly to RGCD homepage, anyway

That's not entirely true, for PL at least. We see an inflood of people that are buying C64s to play games with them, and they are not related to scene (and even not interested in being related to it). They're driven purely by nostalgic reasons. On the most popular auction sites like allegro there is a lot of movement with the 64s nowadays (check: http://allegro.pl/stare-komputery-commodore-77930). Same goes for forums and retro-gaming events.

Now, our worry (I think I can speak also for Raf here) is that those people are not sufficiently informed and they will buy the illegal versions, so this guy making them will in fact steal the profit from the developers who deserve it. People will buy the copies because of lower price and lower shipping rates. Most of them will not even be aware what RGCD is.
 
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