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2024-08-05 22:38
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1940
Trilogic Expert Cartridge

Howdy hackers ... *g*

As stuff piles up here we are looking to update https://rr.pokefinder.org/wiki/Expert_Cartridge and while the category ( https://rr.pokefinder.org/wiki/Category:Expert_Cartridge ) has all kind of content already we found some pictures are definately missing.

https://rr.pokefinder.org/rrwiki/images/e/ec/Your_Commodore_Iss..
shows "The E.S.M." to be plugged between Expert and C64 to provide additional freezing logic.

Does anybody own "The E.S.M." and would mind to open it to produce photos? Or sell it to me? :)

Btw, around 1986 Expert was in the UK priced at:

28.95 - 31.95 Pound (no ESM)
37.50 Pound (including ESM)
7.95 Pound "The E.S.M." Addon

They also had an exchange program at some point, so getting back old carts and likely re-selling them sure was a nice biz model as well? :)

(Pounds * ~3,2 to get the german DM prices for that time :) )

Also looking for anything else not online yet (there) of course! :)
2024-08-06 18:56
Knight Rider

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 133
Only these



2024-08-06 23:49
LordCrass

Registered: Apr 2023
Posts: 8
I think the lower-left picture on this page is the cart with the ESM attached:

https://www.c64copyprotection.com/the-expert-cartridge/
2024-08-07 08:00
HOL2001

Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 99
Uploaded a bunch of pictures of my Expert Cartridge.
It is the C & K version. Dunno if there is any difference to the Trilogic version.
You can get them here:
https://krakenfiles.com/view/xI07osq1nh/file.html
2024-08-07 17:29
Knight Rider

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 133
No idea what you've posted here Holger but in addition to opening loads of other spammy pages, it also tried to send sms to 18 numbers from my phone too



2024-08-08 09:37
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1940
LordCrass - thanks for the pointer. Missed the image showing it. Thats the ESM AddOn obv.

HOL2001: Got the same C&K versions here. Thx for the images - pls delete now, so others dont use kraken anymore :)
2024-08-09 08:11
HOL2001

Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 99
Hi Mike,

dunno what's the problem here.
I don't get any spam/popups.
Maybe some Addblocker etc. might be useful at your side?
However, here is a link to the images for those who don't trust krakenfiles. :)

https://postimg.cc/gallery/bSFm9sP
2024-08-09 11:15
Knight Rider

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 133
Yours is different to my C+K (mine has no ESM at all). My Trilogic with the button on the side with the label must be the 1st release ESM version with a hand soldered daughter board on the back.
2024-08-11 09:39
Bacchus

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 156
I have a few but deep in the dungeon. Traveling and home late tonight, so if I remember it Ill so it...

/Bacchus
2024-08-15 11:07
AlexC

Registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 299
I'll bump the topic by adding that there used to be a Expert user club publishing some disk, and those disks (or maybe it was just a single disk) would be very valuable too. I've been searching for those for quite some time. Probably they were available only in UK and since Expert had very strong competitor: Action Replay I guess this was very niche release and being spread as widely like cracks or demos. Who ever has those disk please stand up and share ;)
2024-08-15 21:00
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1940
Luckily Draven (used to be active on Lemon64) gave us all his Expert related stuff before he died.

https://rr.pokefinder.org/wiki/Category:Expert_Cartridge has the Expertize issues up to number 14 that he collected. That issue says on the last page that they offer a "blank Expert O/S" for 3 pounds which would include enough documentation to puzzle your own Expert.
(It also says issue 15 would be large...)

That "blank Expert O/S" and its docs appear to be only thing missing - The pile of binaries we still have here are either text hacks or small changes on versions and "just" need sorting (sigh).

We are also looking for photos of opened "Trilogic" carts without ESM to compare against https://rr.pokefinder.org/wiki/File:Expert_Cartridge_with_and_w..

Suspecting that Trilogic either drilled their boards similar or there was another production run for the earlier Experts when ESM wasnt even planned maybe?
 
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