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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 652 |
Release id #244483 : Oceanborn
TheRyk mentions here that this pic being animated makes it a one file demo. Is that definitely the case for all GFX? I’ve seen many animations on CSDb that were tagged as gfx but which included simple animations.
What’s the definition for whether a graphic is “animated”? |
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Flex
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 109 |
What Raistlin (& others) said. |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 652 |
“If something moves on the screen it’s already a demo or an intro”
It’s going to take a while to reclassify all those interlace FLI pics to be intros… |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 206 |
Perhaps then, every executable that's not a game or a crack is a demo or an intro? Just reading what I just wrote feels bizarre. I strongly suspect this inconsistency situation is unresolvable. Without curtailing authors that is. And it's been (rightly) said above that if a database of artifacts' classification system curtails past present and future authors, it' broken. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11327 |
Quote:GPZ: in the absence of “rules”, there’s still common sense.
The problem with common sense is that it isn't quite common. And that is why rules are strictly required for this sort of thing - as demonstrated by the countless never ending discussions about this "common sense".
And if you can't come up with a simple rule according to your common sense - it doesn't make a lot of sense either to be begin with. |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2203 |
Holy arbitrariness, Batman...
I do see the point when it comes to music releases with players that actually defined by their visual effects are demos or intros. More as a result of fashion it has become common _practice_ (let's not use the term common sense, hehehe) to let these be "C64 Music" anyway.
But animated gfx with sound as graphics for - excuse my wording - really stupid reasons like "The author decides" or "TheRyk is unfair" or "This costs upvotes" (<- /o\ m favourite argument, Ryk stole the vote! again!) ... Come on... must be the summer heat.
First of all, that "the author decides" stuff. OK, so I release a mute picture as category C64 Music, call it "enjoy the silence" and if anyone dares recommending "Graphics", I generate drama...? Next point is, the entry is locked by Worrior1, I just added(!) myself as maintainer to make that change (one of the few Mod superpowers). He ist still maintainer and could have set it back anytime. Also: I'm on very good terms with Worrior1, even worked on releases with him, so if _he_ had a problem, he would have contacted me long ago and not waited for the Knights of the "All Categories Are Set by Author" round table. BTW My guess is he doesn't care at all :)
Most of all, I don't care enough to rambo this our forever, because I don't think it's important enough. That's why I set it back to GFX now, not because I find your points very logical. Following that logic, categories are superfluous altogether, let's just label everything a "C64 Related Release" and have a "Kill All Categories
Parade" every 26th of July. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 206 |
LOL Ryk stole the vote! Again! B*stard! 🤣 |
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Mixer
Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 447 |
This is funny because of following real-life analogy. The finnish government loves to create arbitary classifications so that it can enforce its policies. As a result there are continuously complaints about how situation of individuals do not fit to any of the classifications, and thus they're treated unfairly in their opinion. The public opinion always is split between those who do not care, who think that classifications should be enforced and those who think that government is shit. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11327 |
Yes, and the german tax system is a textbook example of what happens if you try to massage the classifications to make everyone happy :=) |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1082 |
Quoting chatGPZYes, and the german tax system is a textbook example of what happens if you try to massage the classifications to make everyone happy :=) ok, you made me lol :) |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2203 |
Lightforce Demo
One-Filed Demo for 6 weeks as of now and no complaints
just sayin' |
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