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2015-12-26 19:44
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79
Release id #144000 : Wowzer

Dear moderators,

I've seen my mp3 link for this release has been removed. We had this discussion earlier and it was decided that links to external mp3s are okay.

Was there a policy change?

Thanks
Markus / LMan
 
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2015-12-27 12:54
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79
I appreciate and love real HW recordings of my tunes. Still the SIDPlay ones are genuine. Gee I'm not forcing you guys to download the mp3. There's a favourite format for everyone. :)
2015-12-27 12:57
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4723
CreamD is saying that the action "sampling from SidPlay" is a retarded action. That does not make you a retard. Same goes for me, I am not a retard (that's what my mum says at least), but sometimes I do retarded actions - like eating kamikaze strong food when drunk that almost makes me puke. Clearly retarded.
2015-12-27 13:00
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79
Ian, while a SIDPlay configured exactly as mine will definitely produce the same output, it is not available for all the platforms. I want people to have *easy* access to my music, without caring about emulation tools and settings. Especially regarding the fact that today's browsing is mostly done on mobile devices, where SID emu is painful.

Do you realise what you guys are trying to convince me to do is make my songs less available, and less convenient to access.

I totally accept you don't want those links on CSDb, and please give that to me that I always respected your rules and decisions. But I'll keep trying to make it as convenient as possible for people wanting to hear my tunes.
2015-12-27 13:10
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79
Btw on my homepage, on my song pages, I'm making sure to always include a link to the real HW recording made by Xiny6581 or someone else.

Just pick your flavour and enjoy the music!
2015-12-27 13:19
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3049
LMan: as far as I'm concerned. Adding recorded SidPlay streams to CSDB, is pointless. I'm pretty sure, that everyone around here can run SidPlay.

Real recordings have it's value. So it's best to get someone to make real SID recording for your release. Which I (or anyone else) would be eventually willing to share on sites with mixed audience.

CSDB is hardcore. ;-) It's so hardcore that some even do .arc and ZipCode ;-) Some people think that .sid doesn't belong here. From my experience. When you don't add .sid, you are losing significant part of audience. It's not the case with mp3 though.
2015-12-27 13:46
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79
@Hedning I knew of course how "retarded" was meant. :D

@CreaMD: yeah I know all that. After all we're just exchanging perspectives, which is nice.
2015-12-27 13:53
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
seriously since that guy ages ago recorded all hvsc in several sid formats in mp3 and put it online, what does stop csdb to have all sids in mp3 too ?

I'm fuckin fed up with constantly setting up sidplay, and fighting the fucking windows bug thats there since XP which fucks up file associations constantly.

with todays download speeds its much more convinient to download an mp3. who will fuck with the real c64 to xfer stuf for every sid he wants to check out ? frankly I doudbt there's such an individual out there.

the technology is there, only the minds are still in the 20th century.

my 2 cents.
2015-12-27 14:22
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4723
I have my c64 hooked up beside my main PC. No big deal to have hvsc on the 1541u2 and DJ away in 2 seconds. On a daily basis I tend to use sidplay though - never a problem either. But that is not the question. Csdb can't seriously host mp3 files, and should not. Should we host avi files of every demo too? Is that the next step to please lazy iPad users? We provide the files for the c64 here, other projects - youtube channels, mp3 sites etc, can deliver PC and Apple users what they want.
2015-12-27 14:39
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 79
I think that's Oswald's point, to accept "convenient links", not to host the actual files. And yes I'd very much love links to avis from demos that are recorded from real HW, since for mere mortals without the appropriate equipment it 'IS' a big deal to transfer such stuff.

I'm fortunate enough to own an MMC64 so I can test my songs on the c64 without much hassle.

What's so bad in offering convenience I ask? What do you gain by removing the links, when there's obviously a lot of people who find them practical?
2015-12-27 14:47
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187
oi but are we still discussing this? let's use caps so to make it clear and loud.
WEBSITE LINK IS THERE FOR EXTERNAL MP3/AVI LINKS. IT'S PERFECTLY FINE. JUST DON'T ADD THEM AS DOWNLOAD LINKS.
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