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Sander
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493 |
Graphics on C64 demoscene: Guide of Ethics – a Proposal
Dear fellow sceners,
This is an attempt to get more understanding among, and for, C64 demoscene pixel artists. It’s not written to limit anyone, but a prayer for more transparency.
Read the document here: ->Graphics on C64 demoscene: Guide of Ethics – a Proposal<-
We tried to give define and value different processes. Which is a result of discussion, where we saw mutual grounds and felt the need to write these down.
We will update the document periodically, when enough input has been gathered and sorted out.
We’d really love to hear your thoughts on the subjects in the document.
Please post them in this thread.
(Personally I will not always fully comply to these guidelines myself, but I will continue to be transparant about it. However, I do agree with the values communicated in this document.) |
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El Jefe
Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 69 |
Quoting spider-jHm. As I said, I also agree that "ethics" is kind of misleading. In general I also think that some of the wording could have been chosen to sound less "dramatic".
Spidey, I think you're right about the choice of words on a few points. But that has been emphasized again and again by the creators of the doc. It is meant as a draft and feedback is very welcome in order to adapt the document in the course of the ongoing discussion, so that the best possible agreement can be achieved.
Shocker/sidDivers |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 454 |
Quoting wswe can and will do whatever we want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpF9O0R873I ;-) |
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El Jefe
Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 69 |
Quoting wsQuote:Not nice:
Using someone else’s ideas
Using someone else’s style
Using conversion tools
Keeping it all a secret
seriously? a postulate with such vague definitions is just pointless thought policing and doesn't help anyone. this is the c64 scene. we can and will do whatever we want, everything is free, reshuffle the deck, everbody gets to have their own rules. we don't answer to anyone, except MOS 6510 - who's the boss.
ffs, is it that hard to read AND comprehend??
@ws: please read my last post (#92)
Edit:
So far you missed your opportunity to contribute in a constructive way to this topic. If it is important to you why not make some suggestions instead of making just negative comments? |
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ws
Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 238 |
Which part of "such vague definitions" did you not understand? And do you really think i'd help with such a pamphlet? I was just trying to make a point. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2871 |
Quoting spider-jBUT the main focus still reads for me like "give credit where credit is due" Yeah, that magical border between due and undue credit is what the discussion should be about. :)
Of course assuming that nobody in their right mind would deny due credit. =) |
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El Jefe
Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 69 |
Quoting wsWhich part of "such vague definitions" did you not understand? And do you really think i'd help with such a pamphlet? I was just trying to make a point.
Why make a point if you are not willing to participate in the discussion? Also Im not sure what you point actually is. |
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ws
Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 238 |
My point is: why should we actively participate in the curtailment of our freedom? |
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El Jefe
Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 69 |
I still dont get what your point is. Is it the "vague definition" or the "curtailment of your freedom"? The document can by no means be interpreted in the latter way and you say that you are not willing to help finding a not-so-vague definition.
See what Spidey, Krill, Copyfault and also others wrote. Good night!
Shocker/sidDivers |
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ws
Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 238 |
If you honestly, openly answer to my last question ("NOT NICE" is a curtailment), it will unlock a new level to this discussion. And sincerely, i wish you a nice night, too. |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 633 |
4gentE, nope you're the one who wants to force people to do things how you think is correct. Going by all your replies, it's not a tried trope when it's a fact either. It's a valid argument.
I'm all for people using any kind of enhancements they like, the future is moving towards it. Is it a good thing? Maybe, maybe not, but it's going to continue and be a thing if you like it or not, so deal with it. |
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