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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
The sid stealing continues! ...
... and this times it's not Timberland, but Frankmusik:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWDLsuPK280&feature=related
Jeff/ViruZ identified at 2:20 that it's his "caste camelot.sid" playing right there in the new release "3 Little Words"!
Frankmus(uck)'s myspace channel: http://www.myspace.com/frankmusik
I'm really ashamed of my people! :/ |
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Let's sample from Timbaland's new cd, and put on some stomping crappy non filtered 1983 sid drums and waveform 51 bass! |
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null
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Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 645 |
Quote: Let's sample from Timbaland's new cd, and put on some stomping crappy non filtered 1983 sid drums and waveform 51 bass!
or just show him who's more grown up by not doing the thing to him that you don't want to happen to you.
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http://zomgwtfbbq.info |
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 639 |
or just ... hmm, I dunno. |
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rc55
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Registered: Jul 2008
Posts: 4 |
OK, last night I spoke with Frankmusik and Jeff.
Frankmusik said he's really sorry this situation came about and absolutely wants to address this. From what I gather he has agreed terms with Jeff to resolve his situation but I'm not sure how it is with PFK.
I think basically he downloaded the SID Collection (probably HVSC) and assumed that because it was available for free that it might have been public domain / royalty free; a reasonable assumption considering the nature of the demoscene, which is somewhat chaotic in regards to copyright. Not knowing the specifics of his experience (he could be using any player which wouldn't display metadata), I cannot comment on how the oversight came about, but nonetheless it wasn't intentional to do wrong by anyone.
I'm still trying to get hold of PFK, I have e-mailed him at the address on CSDB and tried to add him on Facebook.
I have to state that Frankmusik is a really nice guy and was absolutely dedicated to sorting this out and wants to restore good favour with people involved. He openly admits that although he loves the music we make and the charismatic sounds of the SID - he is totally unaware of the scene behind it and would like to sort things out.
If anyone is in touch with PFK directly, please message me. |
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Dane
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Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421 |
This explanation and attempt to set things right is good enough for me. The best of luck to Frankmusik.
It's fun to hear that non-scene related people download HVSC to listen through all the gems in it.
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booker
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 334 |
This is good.
See Jeff? Told ya, you do 8bit == all chicks are yours. Look at them in the background of Frank's video! :) |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
I totally agree with Dane.
Booker: hmm.. I see no chicks yet :-/ |
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fade
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 290 |
that's due to the fact one of them blindfolded you
just be careful tho, i heard one of them has a drill with a big wobbly thing on the end :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11354 |
Quote:I think basically he downloaded the SID Collection (probably HVSC) and assumed that because it was available for free that it might have been public domain / royalty free; a reasonable assumption considering the nature of the demoscene, which is somewhat chaotic in regards to copyright.
sorry, but... what? reasonable? chaotic copyright? anyone who creates something automatically owns the copyright to his creation. end of story. you cant assume anything is public domain or royalty free unless it is explicitly stated that it is the case. and as an active musician he should damn well know this.
(and the fact that in the demoscene itself few people actually care, and many have ripped stuff from others too, is totally irrelevant - i guess thats what you mean by "chaotic")
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rc55
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Registered: Jul 2008
Posts: 4 |
Groepaz: You are correct technically, but the reality of most sampling is far more blurry - it all depends on how heavily you want to maintain a stance (remix culture vs. rights assertion etc.). It will continue to be a cause of debate for many years to come, no doubt.
I think for the moment I'd like to be pragmatic and make sure that the original musicians are credited and compensated satisfactorily so we can hope to move forward to make this a positive situation for all involved. |
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