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celticdesign
Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 149 |
Group id #6933 : Moanteam
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/votestatistics.php?type=group&id=6933
to be honest, are the stats calculated randomly?
or do i missed the moan factor? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
i think it means that 5 out of 7 users think this group rules.
personally i'd take it about as serious as the other votes =P |
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TomoAlien
Account closed
Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 17 |
By my calculations, the rating should be 8.5 since:
((10*10)+(1*2))/12 = 8,5 |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
thats because of the secret anti downvoting mechanism =) |
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TomoAlien
Account closed
Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 17 |
Well, that's quite interesting and cool at the same time. Is there an upvoting protection too?
Edit:
Just checked, only downvoting protection exists. |
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E$G
Registered: Dec 2007
Posts: 822 |
3 things IMHO
different point of view brought to a sparks of war ... in the past there were federations against ...
past grudges lead to this?
So why a fake group release A Pac A Lips Now + is not stated as fake?
Why a fake group exist Moan Team ... with fake sceners ...
Where is the reliability of csdb??
This crap affect the work of upload guys and project maintenance
We all know the probs for the votes (up & down) ... but when i see in top groups Moan Team at first place and
Eaglesoft & Booze Design down I think that the joke is goin' to pollute the whole thing ...
Is it possible to kindly remove it or we really need this to have a laugh?
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1882 |
Just crap up the votes - they are in no way useful at all and are object to constant drama anyhow.
Fake label groups on the other hand have a long tradition and their stuff sure belongs here.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
indeed, what countzero said.
its also an interesting question what constitutes a "fake group" or a "fake scener" imho.... as also changing handles and founding new groups using different handles has a long tradition - how do you know this isnt exactly that? :) |
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
Rules are rules. |
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STE'86
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274 |
another interesting question is what constitutes a moderator or a troll? |
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E$G
Registered: Dec 2007
Posts: 822 |
we all know the truth .. and the mainteners of the page knows exactly who's behind ... if it was stated as faked would be more honest ... i don't mind if we like sceners that doesn't exist but if we like the charts I suppose that this should be stopped ... today the chart .. tomorrow the release ... the scene is still alive and thanX GoD we are still interested in what's goin' on ... check the number of Vandalism last issue downloaded! |
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STE'86
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274 |
indeed and the maintainers of the page are.....
csdb moderators. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
"another interesting question is what constitutes a moderator or a troll?"
yeah interesting. go make a demo about it i say. |
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
A demo? Far too sensible, how about a fake group and some fake sceners? |
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STE'86
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274 |
yeah, maybe a demo compo. you could enter too so we don't have to come last perhaps? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
you could own this crappy release so hard, so easy. just do it i say :) |
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Sixx
Registered: May 2005
Posts: 229 |
Mean while in Duckburg.. |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1882 |
Isn't it soooo simple?
As soon as Jazzcat puts a fake label release on THE LIST - it's a real group. :)
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TomoAlien
Account closed
Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 17 |
We really should have separate group and scener lists separating fake ones from real ones, like we have in the demo categories. Why? Because I think it's unfair when the top groups list gets sabotaged by fake groups. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3177 |
tomoalien: you have voted it 10 so you shouldn't complain about anything. Just fix your vote as i just did and there, not anymore in the top groups (which doesn't say top REAL groups anyway) =)
as of now there are
Panoramic Designs (9.4)
3 Vibrants (9.3)
4 Eagle Soft Incorpora.. (9.3)
3 groups that doesn't have anything to do in each other's category (demo, music and cracking)
so what?
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terric
Account closed
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 47 |
I am actually thinking of how to make a sensible result out of the votes without taking to much processing time on the server side. If i come up with some resonable solution, then i post it here on CSDB.
Math has some nice tools for dealing with propagating values.
I saw that Moanteam didn't have that much votes as Panoramic Designs or Booze Design. Yet still higher mean-measure.
terric |
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terric
Account closed
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 47 |
Yes, i had a fast thought and this would change the ranking to some group benefit and lower another one.
Seriously i could take some hate for this,
Example: Percent 9 vote is = number of nine votes divided by total number of votes.
Take
10*percent 10 vote add
9*percent 9 vote add
8*percent 8 vote add
7*percent 7 vote add
6*percent 6 vote add
5*percent 5 vote add
4*percent 4 vote add
3*percent 3 vote add
2*percent 2 vote add
1*percent 1 vote equals points
If anyone like to use the calculator, you see that Panoramic design will get higher vote than Moanteam as it is now when i am speaking. |
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TomoAlien
Account closed
Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 17 |
Quote: I am actually thinking of how to make a sensible result out of the votes without taking to much processing time on the server side. If i come up with some resonable solution, then i post it here on CSDB.
Math has some nice tools for dealing with propagating values.
I saw that Moanteam didn't have that much votes as Panoramic Designs or Booze Design. Yet still higher mean-measure.
terric
DISREGARD THE QUOTE ABOVE SINCE I ACCIDENTALLY QUOTED THE WRONG POST.
Quote:tomoalien: you have voted it 10 so you shouldn't complain about anything. Just fix your vote as i just did and there, not anymore in the top groups (which doesn't say top REAL groups anyway) =)
I've voted 10 on it because that's what STE'86 wanted me to do. I changed my vote into a 2 since they actually released a thing. |
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
Give me all your money. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11293 |
Quote:I've voted 10 on it because that's what STE'86 wanted me to do.
oh the irony. first i vote 10 for a group, then i turn around and complain it exists. way to go! |
