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2017-09-17 16:38
No-XS

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 78
Release id #158909 : Quad Core 100%

On 17th of september the 100% version is posted. I am sure there was a party-release last week, with a bunch of comments. That is now deleted?

Wasn't this site about preservation of all?
2017-09-17 16:48
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3136
It was changed to release type "Related Release" for some reason - prolly because a real binary doesn't exist or simply is not provided, only a recording - and CSDb normal mode view doesn't include this type of release. One can customize CSDb view mode in user settings, check Custom types to everything and then set Custom mode, it will pop up in searches.
Quad Core
2017-09-17 17:04
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3136
This also brings up a question of different treatment for that entry and Arise's Pro Memoria 3 entry, which was deleted because the demo only exists as a video
Pro Memoria 3 (96%)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DNS7jlyfK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=077v1VOvyS4
2017-09-17 18:08
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2492
IMHO the original release should be kept (w/o download) to document the party version. This has happened before, with pre-releases for party compos, which were not spread as binaries.
For that reason, the Pro Memoria 3 should be restored as well, even if there is no download available.
2017-09-17 18:26
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11136
but it IS being kept - only the release type was (quite correctly so) changed. the "party version" was a video - as explained by the creator in the comments. and obviously a video isnt "c64 demo" :)
2017-09-17 18:47
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2492
But a video of a C64 demo...?
Or a party version that was not released as binary should be re-labeled as well then? Because it would be just a "memoy of the spectators", which isn't a C64 demo either. :)
2017-09-17 21:58
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11136
"c64 demo" applies to actual c64 demos, not videos of them, not pictures of them. its that simple.
2017-09-17 22:14
Copyfault

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 466
But shouldn't Pro Memoria 3 be also reactivated as an entry, e.g. as "C64 Misc."? I remember they released a video cap of the demo later togehter with some kind of Arise DVD-collection...
2017-09-18 08:20
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3136
copyfault, the capture is in the YT links I already linked above =) The one I upped got resized by YT, the one upped by Zer0-X is original DVD resolution.
2017-09-19 20:46
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2492
Quoting Groepaz
"c64 demo" applies to actual c64 demos, not videos of them, not pictures of them. its that simple.


No it's not I am afraid. As I wrote, there have been quite a number of demos shown at parties, but not released as binaries until later (or not at all). That has nothing to do with whatever further info, be it videos, pictures or whatever, is posted together with the release entry. And that does not turn them into whatever else.
It could be argued that the download here is reserved for binaries ony, but then the solution is to put the link to the video into comments, and not change the release type.
At least that's what I think.
2017-09-19 20:56
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11136
but the party release *WAS A VIDEO*
 
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