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Bones99
Registered: May 2005
Posts: 29 |
ik+ Graphics.
Hi .
I'm working on a remake of IK+ for PC, my plan is to make it network enabled with a lobby system so that it works on a winner-stays-in basis , and challengers can queue to challenge the champion over the internet. The problem I have is that I cant draw :( and even if I could it would be pointless to re-create all the gfx by hand).
I wonder if anyone knows where I could get the graphics from ? I wrote a ripper and found the sprite data using a ccs64 freeze file, but I cant seem to understand that pattern in which the graphics are loaded.
Any version(c64,amiga,ST etc) of the gfx is welcome.
Can anyone help ?
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1568 |
Offtopic: IK+ is still licensed by System 3.
So rethink your project or continue if you are a skilled lawyer ;)
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Twoflower
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434 |
Take WinUAE, get IK+. Load it. Choose two/three players versus. Slow down emulation to 1%. Do all moves. Screenshot all frames when there is movement. Note that there can be movement even in cases when the sprite don't change (jumpkick is a prime example) - that's why you need this approach and not just a rip-out of the sprites.
This method can me used on any version, as long as you have an emulator which can slow down emulation or have framestepping. May I also recommend that you take a look at the most recent version made, the one on the GBA.
Yeah, and don't call it IK+ in the end. |
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Bones99
Registered: May 2005
Posts: 29 |
Quote: Offtopic: IK+ is still licensed by System 3.
So rethink your project or continue if you are a skilled lawyer ;)
I'm not planning on selling it .
I will credit System 3 and acknowledge their copyright.
If anyone has a problem with my releasing it I will simply hand it over to emule and relinquish any knowledge of it.
Legalities are the least of my problems. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1568 |
Quote:I'm not planning on selling it .
I will credit System 3 and acknowledge their copyright.
If things were so easy. This ain't gonna work, dude.
If it looks like IK+, sounds like IK+ or even smells like IK+ legally it *IS* IK+.
Recent example is Geometry Wars. This game is played on XBox360 Live and some fans of the game made a freeware PC version.
Microsoft showed their muscles and the game was removed from the net.
I don't want to play a party-pooper (heck! i would like to play it on my pc) but see it as some facts you shouldn't ignore.
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Bones99
Registered: May 2005
Posts: 29 |
Quote: Quote:I'm not planning on selling it .
I will credit System 3 and acknowledge their copyright.
If things were so easy. This ain't gonna work, dude.
If it looks like IK+, sounds like IK+ or even smells like IK+ legally it *IS* IK+.
Recent example is Geometry Wars. This game is played on XBox360 Live and some fans of the game made a freeware PC version.
Microsoft showed their muscles and the game was removed from the net.
I don't want to play a party-pooper (heck! i would like to play it on my pc) but see it as some facts you shouldn't ignore.
Well .. thanks for the heads up ..
I wouldn't expect a company like system 3 to be as pathetic as microsoft-in-the-head but maybe it would be worth dropping a few mails to see what the situation is .. never know till you try eh ?.
Besides , there seem to be several other remakes out there and the remakers dont seem to have had the pants sued off them .. we'll have to see. |
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Bones99
Registered: May 2005
Posts: 29 |
I see System 3 (or studio 3) is very much alive and active on various formats .. They're even publishing IK+ for other platforms .. They probrably wouldn't take too kindly to my re-make .. especially if it was any good ..
Ah well .. there goes another bright idea down the tubes. |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1153 |
Yep, especially with the netplay it could be seen quite like "competition" against their official products. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
netplay it using vice and take a dump on copyrights :) |
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j0x
Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 215 |
Somebody should remind Microsoft of Tempest, Asteroids and Robotron: 2084.
And remind System 3 of Karate Champ.
I sincerely doubt you'll have any trouble if you release a freeware game along the IK+ concept. Of course, stealing the graphics is another matter :)
OTOH, if you have a working game with stolen graphics, it shouldn't be a problem to recruit a skilled artist to redo the graphics to avoid accusations of software theft. Infringing on System 3's IP may be another matter, but I doubt it'll stand up in court.
If you charge money for the game in any way, then it's a completely different ballgame.
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933 |
You should have a chat with Mark Cale first, I think he will convince you to officially port it to PC and not pay you a penny for your efforts. |
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