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2008-09-17 12:54
swasti

Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 118
THE MOVERS Treasure Chest II

hello dudes,

fresh from my red hot glowing 1541-ii disk drive - another transferpack (finished some minutes ago..). i got the disks from a friend with his c64.
246 transfered disk sides in the pack.
that was a bloody work - some (bad) hd disks and pc disks where in the box. some of them makes my drive crazy.

HOT!!

if you have self transfered disk - please post them! ;)

regards
swasti
 
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2009-03-16 20:02
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Rough: all disks are nibble transferred. The person transferring them is quite experienced indeed. Read the note accompanying the collection.
2009-03-16 21:59
Ymgve

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 84
It would also help if you were more specific in which disks were problematic. Also, make sure you get the second version of the disks, because the first one was converted with a nib2g64 converter that threw garbage in tracks 36+ if the original .nib file was only 35track
2009-03-17 13:51
Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829
Quote: Rough: all disks are nibble transferred. The person transferring them is quite experienced indeed. Read the note accompanying the collection.

Sounds like these disks are completely fucked. A pity.

@Ymgwe: many many disks are faulty of the DRAM collection, just try yourself. I wont make a list, no time.
2009-03-17 19:46
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Please tell me which disks give you trouble as we have other attempts at re-converting them with different drives etc.
2009-03-17 21:27
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Another box, identified as Culemborg 1.

Filesize is 19MB, lots of read errors, but there is some stuff in there that is not on CSDb (although it might not work).
2009-03-17 23:24
Ymgve

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 84
To clear things up I used nibscan on all the disks in the derbyram collection. 366 images had errors:

http://pastebin.com/f549e0aff
2009-03-18 09:34
onebitman

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 47
I've managed to transfer most of my little 200 disk collection and actually found some stuff not on csdb (will add more the following days).

so when i see all these packs - who sorts this all out? xfer takes some time, but checking back with csdb, adding info etc. - really lots of work.

and about broken disks: do you guys check them for dirt on surface or are they magnetically defect? (some of my disks were stored in a cellar for ages, 1 of 10 was broken. will try to fix, i guess some have un-csdb-ed stuff on em)
2009-03-18 10:32
E$G

Registered: Dec 2007
Posts: 789
@zerozillion: about broken disks
3 main reasons:

1- old 15-23 years old disks are not guaranteed and if they were exposed to light cold/hot places the process of degeneration increase, mushrooms-batceria-magnetical defects increase the loss!
2- traded disks have been hitten hard from postmans, bent, pressed and so on so no way to save the contents
3- some programs from broken floppies were copied in new ones during the tradin' but the source programs doesn't work so the result is a non bumpin' head floppY but not workin' at all as it was in the original.

It's useful to clean the head of the disk drive (better a 1541II)

The procedure I'm using to transfer my huge collection can be found here:
Marauding E$G/IBB pandora's 5 1/4 boxeS!

thX to everyone to share their collection too!

E$G
2009-03-18 15:30
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
My procedure:
- Tools: 1541-II connected with a XAP1541 cable to an MS/DOS PC running StarCommander;
- I regularly clean the drive head with cotton swabs and alcohol (not potable ;) );
- I don't clean the floppies;
- When errors occur I try to do re-reads, but if too many errors remain, I switch to auto-skip.

Easy :)
2009-03-18 18:39
onebitman

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 47
when there is visible dirt on the disc itself and nothing else helps, i cut the sleeve open, clean the disc carefully with soap and medium hot water, carefully dry and put into a new sleeve. it can't get more broken than it already is ;)

at some point i wanted to build a "disc washing" machine, still on my to do list.
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