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2010-01-21 20:47
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
Looking for qualified trustworthy sceners to update database?

Some time ago Enthusi and I talked about creating a web based database for c64 gfx. Intentionally just for blabla but during the last two weeks the idea took shape and became an existing website.

c64pixels.com

What we really need is content. And therefore we need your help.
To maintain the aspired high quality of the database we follow a strict data format and everyone helping us is required to provide the images and data according to a specific scheme (details via PM). Sounds more severely as it is. We just want to take this job seriously to build up a huge graphics collection – showing as much graphical variety of the c64 world as possible from the mid 80ies till now.

So please join us :)
2010-01-21 21:18
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
awesome project. :)

some usability nitpicking: the next, last,etc. (>,>>) buttons are too small and badly placed. page numbers are too small aswell, and active page is not indicated. clicking on the picture I'd expect seeing it in bigger form and comments / votes, not a selection of the artist's works. that should be reachable by clicking on the artist's name.

edit: csdb link is only visible in the artist's sort. :P
2010-01-21 21:59
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
What will the site offer over and above CSDb?
2010-01-21 22:22
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989
Quote: What will the site offer over and above CSDb?

Proper screen dumps and custom searchable tags for one. :) (Which is great!)
2010-01-21 22:42
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
strictly speaking the site is not supposed to be something like an 8 bit pixeljoint or something like that. it is a gallery, for browsing, comparing different styles, get some retro entertainment - eg. commercial based games artworks in the user area... offering constant quality for the screenshots, crosswise linked keywords and with growing topic based groups (like mermaid's girl and dog characters).

in fact there will be no comments or votes on that site. imo csdb is the place for this. there are too few votes in avarage here anyway, so there is really no need for a second one. the whole content data on c64pixels is processed analogue to csdb and every scene release is linked to its db entry here.
2010-01-21 22:42
SIDWAVE
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
Great guys! HVSC of gfx :D
2010-01-21 22:44
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
Quote: Proper screen dumps and custom searchable tags for one. :) (Which is great!)

yeah, and who would want to browse pictures through csdb's advanced search, its a nightmare, and you dont even get thumbnails.

I bet Perff could code up a gallery function that would look like c64pixels, in a few days if he'd care... Perff, please?
2010-01-22 09:33
Skate

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 490
why not having screenshots at search page for all releases (which have screenshots) instead of graphic releases only?
2010-01-22 09:47
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
I'll repeat myself: csdb really should have a gallery function, instead of forcing sceners to make double work with c64pixels.
2010-01-22 09:48
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 487
Great initiative!
Hope we can get back to the topic of finding reliable sceners to help the team. (rest: take your nagging elsewhere)
2010-01-22 11:06
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
This is very nice!
A gallery function in CSDb isn't too necessary: from maintaining point of view, I like the C64pixels idea better.
We shouldn't strive for the all-in-one-mega-universal database. Too bloated.
2010-01-22 11:42
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
from maintaining point of view all you need is webcode to display the army of gfx already added in here, with all the data you can imagine: credit, group, compo, place, date, format, etc. the only thing I see c64pixels has above this is groupping pics based on theme: "crosswise linked keywords and with growing topic based groups (like mermaid's girl and dog characters)."
2010-01-22 21:16
Danzig

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 429
Quote:
showing as much graphical variety of the c64 world as possible from the mid 80ies till now.


I can't see even any END 80ies at all ;)
2010-01-22 22:14
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
@danzig: just sign up... after user login you will get the whole collection.
2010-01-23 09:43
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639
Great initiative. As for CSDb: It's not reasonable to have every single picture, logo etc in every demo added as a separate release. Better then to have a dedicated site focusing on that, just like HVSC. Given time, C64Pixels may of course work its way into CSDb, just like there is HVSC functionality now, but adding such functionality to CSDb without first letting it sort itself out would be a mistake IMO.
2010-01-23 14:35
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1821
No gallery for csdb!
Rather invest some work into fields which really require updating - it's perfectly ok to have specialised sites for different fields.

Instead people should start using proper names for their csdb uploads and spread them to the ftps as well - ssme.d64 is just not as useful as "StarSpriteMovementEditorV2.6.d64" would be. Apart from that there are at least a dozen other corners to circle - galleries not included.

Keep it up at c64pixels! If I'd be much into gfx I'd be curious to support. :)

l8r

Count Zero/CyberpunX/SCS*TRC
2010-01-23 17:57
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
what radiantx and count0 said :o)
2010-01-24 15:16
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2894
Wow, nice effort guys! I gave up trying to watch PAL demos years ago and don't do much even now with emulation. Seeing all these nicely styled, and mostly PAL, screens in a very inspiring thing.

Thanks!
2010-01-25 18:04
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434
I missed this thread completely until now. The site is looking fine and i'll be happy to give a hand.
2010-01-27 07:54
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
just a random idea: it would be nice to host the original binaries because IIRC soci made a tool which makes it possible to display them on the web (view64?), with such a tool it would be possible to view pics with/without PAL emulation, zoom, etc. I see you have used a template site intended for photos, so this may be way off of what you can do with that / your plans / means more work etc. just ignore me if so. :)
2010-01-27 16:26
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
you might want to look what "view64" is first.... =P
2010-01-27 17:02
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
it allows saving bmps, rest is not much work, make an exe which creates pal filter version, install imagemagick, make a script to generate pal filtered / nonfiltered / different sizes/ thumbnail. profit.(ofcourse its all just an idea)

btw, bug report: the site shows shifli pics when filtering for shi.
2010-01-27 17:47
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
"it allows saving bmps, rest is not much work, make an exe which creates pal filter version, install imagemagick, make a script to generate pal filtered / nonfiltered / different sizes/ thumbnail. profit.(ofcourse its all just an idea)"
uh, you realize the difference between all that and "a tool that makes it possible to display something on the web" ? :)
2010-01-27 18:00
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
*rude reply removed by myself*

Groppie, you're just trolling on me here with this. The problem is solvable, and IIRC there was such a tool maybe not view64, or maybe I remember wrong. Doesnt matter.
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