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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336 |
Release id #185343 : VICE 3.4
Since 3.4 Mr Wegi's loader stopped working - it seems to init drive and go idle. Any solution to that? Tweaking settings gives no results. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4734 |
Quote: @hedning: sound works cool in 3.4 :)
Great! |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4734 |
Quote: Quoting StoneQuoting dano
My biggest problem is the framerate under Windows.
I haven't compiled the latest versions of VICE/resid, but I know from experience that tweaking the floating point settings for resid-fp has a tremendous impact on performance (5x speedup and more). The default settings with the Microsoft compiler will create slow code. If you have VS2019 you can even use llvm/clang.
VICE's build system hasn't supported MSVC for quite a while now. If you want to build VICE on Windows from source you'll need msys2, unless Visual Studio supports autotools projects.
How can we get them to do that again then? The bulkyness of today's versions is unbearable. 95% of the daily VICE users must be Windows users. |
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Perplex
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 255 |
Quoting hedning95% of the daily VICE users must be Windows users.
True. People on Linux use VICE mostly during the night. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4734 |
Quote: Quoting hedning95% of the daily VICE users must be Windows users.
True. People on Linux use VICE mostly during the night.
Haha! :D |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2982 |
Quoting hedningHow can we get them to do that again then? The bulkyness of today's versions is unbearable. 95% of the daily VICE users must be Windows users. 1. Become one of "them".
2. Fucking do it.
3. Keep doing it.
=) |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4734 |
Quote: Quoting hedningHow can we get them to do that again then? The bulkyness of today's versions is unbearable. 95% of the daily VICE users must be Windows users. 1. Become one of "them".
2. Fucking do it.
3. Keep doing it.
=)
What would I do there? Pixel a new icon? Become Groepaz’ personal spacepresser? :D |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954 |
Quote: @hedning: sound works cool in 3.4 :)
Been using 3.3, SID emulation sounds more accurate than reSID fp, which I used before and didn't reveal the low filter clickers for 8580. |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336 |
Quoting HeinBeen using 3.3, SID emulation sounds more accurate than reSID fp, which I used before and didn't reveal the low filter clickers for 8580.
True, given SID filter has burnt a little xD That said - direction was right only slightly overdone. |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
Re: SID filters — the problem lies/lied in the formula used for replicating the analogue filter in the 8580 not accurately reproducing the filter curve as measured from a real C64, when fed the constants used in the ReSID sources. I submitted a tentative patch that made the filter sound more correct to my delicate ears, though the curve was still way off. Not sure if that patch ended up being used, if a proper fix was made, or if the new filters were simply redisabled for the 8580 until they could be made right. More info may be available among the bug reports in the Sourceforge project.
Re: Windows builds — why even bother supporting MSVC if MSYS/MinGW works? The difference in the resulting binaries is likely completely negligable, and building using one is in no way harder than building using the other. |
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Stone
Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 172 |
Quoting Radiant
Re: Windows builds — why even bother supporting MSVC if MSYS/MinGW works? The difference in the resulting binaries is likely completely negligable, and building using one is in no way harder than building using the other.
It's not just about spitting out an executable. I hear VICE team is still looking for maintainers on Windows and Mac and in order to contribute, most people will probably want a development experience they are comfortable with. Why not use a platform independent build system (or build system generator) like cmake, which seems to be becoming an industry standard for C/C++ based projects these days?
I only have a single VICE patch to my name (a crash bugfix related to midi), but to make it happen I had to jump through some hoops to create Visual Studio project files so I could debug it. Having up-to-date build files for other OSes would greatly lower the bar for contributing. BTW: I don't love cmake. I just hate it a little less as time passes by. |
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