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Sledge
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 102 |
CSDb voting system
I know that the voting system have been discussed before. But things tend to be questionable when people gives 1 point for Vanja's work. It's clear that some people just down vote really good entries for some reason. And it is always "anonymous" voting too. Noone seems to stand for their down votes, making them totally useless in my eyes.
I like the voting system, and think we should have one, but I really think we should stop allowing anonymous voting! The whole system fucks up when it's used.
Down voting sucks! |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
Example: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/toplist.php?type=scener&subtype=%281..
In the current cracker charts I'm on spot #59, while GRG is on spot #60, this is ridicolous as Glenn is a far better cracker than I am. |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Quote:In the current cracker charts I'm on spot #59, while GRG is on spot #60, this is ridicolous as Glenn is a far better cracker than I am.
That is because when someone votes for one entry in the list, (s)he isn't obliged to rank all others.
So ranking based on the current voting system is just plain nonsense.
The voting system doesn't work.
It's flawed, borked, useless and meaningless.
Therefor, I don't vote.
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
and how will non-anonymous voting stop downvoting ? :) voting will be never "correct" even if there were no downvotes or no anonymity or if there will be forced comments. if you're interested, I have taken part in the downvoting bizz a few times when I saw some demos suddenly climbing, others suddenly falling, and I got angry. For example I have downvoted a few demos (guess which:) and gave Desert Dream a 10 to have it in the nr 1 position, after seeing it falling down suddenly, I felt little guilt as DD had its downvotes already, so now kill me :) |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
Maybe the person is allergic to dogs? Or fish? Or maybe they are deeply offended by over-the-top sugarcoated stickfigure cuteness, or maybe they just really really don't like my pictures.
Or maybe they do hate me, omg. Is it because I'm Norwegian? I swear, I've never clubbed a baby seal to death. No, really! Is it because I've started using Timanthes (I hear crossdev tools are killing the C64 you know)? Or is it because I ramble on and on in forum posts, hmm..
I doubt I'll ever find out, <lies> and I don't really care too much </lies>, but I have to admit I do wonder what the reason behind it really is.
Yes, voting has been discussed 100 times, there even was a poll on removing or keeping anonymous votes, I'm not sure what happened with that. So yeah...I don't really see the vote system changing anytime soon.
Now let's all roast some marshmallows and think about happier things! |
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Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 645 |
mmmmmmmmmm... marshmellows.... and rookworst! <3
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Yazoo
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227 |
friendship-voting or downvoting is part of the scene since it started i guess... (competitions and so on)
its not nice - but its part of the scene.
and yes - if you change the voting-system - you shouldnt just make the hidden votes visible, but delete them. - or there will be alot of flamewars going on when ppl notice who downvoted em. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048 |
1. Downvoting is formally "prohibited" but currently the banning system is too inefficient and we have to collect too mnay votes to ban person who does dowvnote selected persons regularly.
2. I think when system for banning will get more efficient some more obvious downovters will get their ass kicked in a split second. Therefore I advise persons who do such things to remove their downvotes (that also counts the person who lately downvoted Mermaid).
roman
p.s.: Mods don't check for downvotes regularly, but we can spot such irregularities anytime. As you can see from this thread, such covert behaviour only ends in discussions and reactions like this, which is unwelcome either. |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074 |
cream: as an alternative to banning people when you detect voting abuse, how about you just turn an anonymous downvote into a public vote, so everyone can see who the lamer is? That should make the dorks a little more cautious...
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Yazoo
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227 |
still i dont know what a downvote is... if i would vote a 5 or a 4 on mermaids latest gfx - would that be a downvote or not? (i didnt do that - its just an example) who is the one to decide if i have to like or dislike something? maybe i just dont like hires gfx (i like them but just want to give examples)
the cdsb "asks" for votes... and no one should censor the votes i think. because censoring anyones opinion never is a good idea.
so if ppl dont like downvotes - the voting system should be removed - or we just have to deal with downvotes.
thats my 2 cents. |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847 |
magervalp:
Exactly! Why can't all these downvotes with "hidden" users be shown to us ? It makes me sick when I see really cool releases and "good scener" profiles that include ridiculous vote "1" figures submitted by some anonymous lamer(s). It proves no more no less that those particular "users" are either taking the piss, or have some sort of hatrid or jealousy against the person. There's really no other reason why they do it, unless the production is of course very bad. |
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