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Wile Coyote
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Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 646 |
How many years does the C64 have remaining?
With activity down, combined with appearances of sceneres releasing old stuff created years back, I wonder how much the C64 scene can continue?
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
The original question is kinda interessting.
Not beeing in this field I suspect that soon C64s will fail due to the mere age of the ICs (not just due to abuse).
However that may take some more years still. Also it would be nice to know about the rapidy of "decay". Will all chips die in a matter of 5 years or are the first ones failing now and the last ones in 20 years?
I think atm mostly PSUs fail due to age/use and take c64 with them as main cause. Well and all the power consuming extra hardware accelerates that process likely...
At first it might make sense to replace single components with new technology. CPLD/FPGA.
Except SID that should be no problem. SID will die as it is if people dint get a better grab on its interia.
In the end, maybe people design a 100% alternative on modern hardware components. Not like DTV or so. Rather like the minimig I think. Then again its not totally unlikely that c64 wil remain merely as EMU on host HW...
I like the c64-on-new components most and wouldnt even mind as long as potential and(!) restrictions match the c64 100%. All else would be "expensive" AND never be suffciently widespread to be fun. I think. Current efforts give reason to hope that all/most data will be secured before loss. Thats mostly an issue with tapes these days I think.
Well just my 2 cents... |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Quote: The original question is kinda interessting.
Not beeing in this field I suspect that soon C64s will fail due to the mere age of the ICs (not just due to abuse).
However that may take some more years still. Also it would be nice to know about the rapidy of "decay". Will all chips die in a matter of 5 years or are the first ones failing now and the last ones in 20 years?
I think atm mostly PSUs fail due to age/use and take c64 with them as main cause. Well and all the power consuming extra hardware accelerates that process likely...
At first it might make sense to replace single components with new technology. CPLD/FPGA.
Except SID that should be no problem. SID will die as it is if people dint get a better grab on its interia.
In the end, maybe people design a 100% alternative on modern hardware components. Not like DTV or so. Rather like the minimig I think. Then again its not totally unlikely that c64 wil remain merely as EMU on host HW...
I like the c64-on-new components most and wouldnt even mind as long as potential and(!) restrictions match the c64 100%. All else would be "expensive" AND never be suffciently widespread to be fun. I think. Current efforts give reason to hope that all/most data will be secured before loss. Thats mostly an issue with tapes these days I think.
Well just my 2 cents...
AFAIK IC:s can hold quite long if you keep them dry and of course do not abuse them when being ignorant to static electricity etc. The main problems are the capacitors, especially those in the PSUs and fortunately it's easy to change capacitors and even rebuild your own PSU. |
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WVL
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 896 |
Actually I recently refurbished a c128 PSU with new capacitors and a different cable (for c64) just for this purpose : to keep my c64 alive. |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
I predict the downfall of the C64 scene sometime within the next 2 weeks, when the majority of sceners will die from heart attacks after heated discussions about copyright and the use of reference material. Possibly. |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
I AM BORIS VALLEJO!
now suffer and die |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351 |
Quote:Not like DTV or so. Rather like the minimig I think.
yuck, minimig is a horrible rendition of a "clone", it's in no way better than DTV =P |
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uneksija
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 45 |
Millions after millions of C64s were made. You can still buy a 100% working Sixtyfour for very cheap from Ebay. Of course more and more C64s will stop working in the future, and it will become more difficult to find a good setup to enjoy demos etc. But it is far from too difficult so far to get a 100% working C64 I think, and I'm yet not very worried of the future. I'm sure there will be working C64s when we are all just dust (altough less of them). |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Quote: Replying to "How many years does the C64 have remaining?"
not a whole lot if ppl keep on nagging about everything continuously...
the scene is full of nagging since the beginnings. |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
Oswald: No it isn't!!!!!!1!
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
ahaha :D |
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