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carlsson
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 41 |
SID out of tune?
Recently a Speccy person elsewhere posted that:
Quote:The SID .. tended to be out of tune at extreme frequencies (the Speccy's beeper also suffers this problem). Where as the AY is much closer to perfect pitch.
Apart from being typical C64/SID-bashing (most Speccy people despise the SID for muddy sound blah blah blah), does the poster have a point? I can't recall I ever heard a SID tune that suffers from lack of frequency resolution so it sounds out of tune, except from when it was done on purpose or the musician didn't bother to get a good frequency table.
I know from personal experience that the VIC-20 has a very limited frequency resolution, but it is a completely different chip and supposedly nobody mixes up the two. Maybe if one uses very high frequencies (several thousand Hz?) on the SID, these notes will not be in tune, but few people can hear the difference, and it depends on monitor or other speakers if they can reproduce the notes faithfully. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
I remember that Future Composer had one note that was out of tune, somewhere in the bass-octave. It was very annoying. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11387 |
"I don't care about technical power, the 3d cartoon effect is one of the freshest things I've seen in years. So yes, it rocks."
what exactly makes it a "cartoon effect" ?! the crappy blocky fillings? *shrug* |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: "I don't care about technical power, the 3d cartoon effect is one of the freshest things I've seen in years. So yes, it rocks."
what exactly makes it a "cartoon effect" ?! the crappy blocky fillings? *shrug*
Those crappy blocky fillings are what makes it rock dude! Brilliant! |
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Mirage
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 113 |
So, when will we see some crappy blocky fillings in a focus demo made by you, TDJ? |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: So, when will we see some crappy blocky fillings in a focus demo made by you, TDJ?
As soon as you draw those crappy graphics for me. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11387 |
"Those crappy blocky fillings are what makes it rock dude! Brilliant!"
oh my gawd. i would think that pretty much everyone else would like to avoid that shitty look by all means. and i doubt it was done on purpose too - its just that you cant do it any better on a speccy :=) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Which just proves that speccy is the better machine. I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT! |
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Deev
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206 |
Got to agree with TDJ (apart from the bit about the Speccy being the better machine, I spent too much time on that argument when I was at school to ever concede!).
When I clicked the link and watched the demo through, I was really impressed by that effect. It never entered my head that it might only be done this way due to technical limitations until I came back and read the rest of this thread. Whether it's down to restrictions or not, it looks cool! |
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Black Belt Jones
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 57 |
fuck, that does look cool. i feel a touch of speccy penis envy :-P |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 476 |
older gt versions with arpeggio being implented as standard effect managed to produce out of tune notes with said arpeggios. (mortars stadia > yay.)
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