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Raf
Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 343 |
Bomberland - illegal copy
http://allegro.pl/cartridge-bomberland-c64-i3907160321.html
here you can buy illegal copy of bomberland game, description says "Rom został zakupiony w firmie RGCD i użyty tylko w tym cartridgu ."
it means: "ROM was bought on RGCD and used only in this particular cartridge"
cartridges are sold by this guy: 11111olo
what do you think about it?
photos:
http://www.sendspace.pl/file/pic/1cae9bf5a79045b7ea7f380/view
http://www.sendspace.pl/file/pic/ca50d79db5b29c4ae5439bb/view
rest of cartridges are fake new-old-stock clones of Polish famous cartridge Black Box.
Prince of persia can also be seen - is it okay to sell it? |
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Bitbreaker
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 504 |
Lölchen.
I'm pretty sure that noone will become a millionaire from all this. I guess selling esoteric stuff gives a higher yield. So if this is really meant for making big money, it must be due to desperate reasons. |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
Stealing is stealing, no matter if it's 20 euro or 2000 euro - that's my personal view. I guess it's easier to don't give a fuck though, as long as it concerns other people, right?
Of course it's not meant for big money, but since when does that even matter, when we're talking about someone's hard work? Is ripping code from a demo that is for free an OK thing in your book, because the demo has no net value whatsoever?
Have we really become that indifferent? That is pretty fucking sad. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11344 |
somehow i find it amusing to complain about illegal copies of C64 games - on a site which is largely based around the subculture that defines itself largely through illegal copies of C64 games.
you should be proud. your game obviously is so good that someone bothers to make bootlegs from it.
that said, since the guy is selling the stuff openly via these auction platforms, it should be kinda easy to shoot him down - and ofcourse you should do that too :) |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2217 |
I totally see the annoyed ppl's point, and even in our subculture which wouldn't exist today without yesterday's (and be quite different without today's) cracking imho, for sure bootlegging for profit was lame back then and is still so now. I made clear that warning collectors, especially from Poland, is good. What I meant with RGCD & Samar might decide to ignore is rather the question whether the damage is really worth all the law suit trouble. I'm pretty sure I would rather take Groepaz' view:
Quote:you should be proud. your game obviously is so good that someone bothers to make bootlegs from it.
than wasting too much time and energy. Of course the guy is so overly bold that he seems to beg for being snitched at that Polish ePay site admins, that shouldn't take very long and would at least give him the trouble of having to sell his bootlegs a little less openly elsewhere or even make it difficult to get rid of his stock if he already produced an amount that hurts not to be sold :) |
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STE'86
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274 |
oh and this is just an FYI for Owen, the Bomberland knock off cart front is a scan of the free poster from inside the box.
It was the only artwork which I put "fire in the hole" on. none of the other bomberland art has that on.
and the black cart looks crap. BUT I do wish that the rgcd c64 cart shells weren't so retro and were more like the vcs ones with an indent panel for a real illustration :)
Bomberland and the new Phase Out art would look very nice across the whole front of the cart. |
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Bitbreaker
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 504 |
Quote: Stealing is stealing, no matter if it's 20 euro or 2000 euro - that's my personal view. I guess it's easier to don't give a fuck though, as long as it concerns other people, right?
Of course it's not meant for big money, but since when does that even matter, when we're talking about someone's hard work? Is ripping code from a demo that is for free an OK thing in your book, because the demo has no net value whatsoever?
Have we really become that indifferent? That is pretty fucking sad.
Wackee: sure, stealing is stealing, and that is also my view. I was not doubting that. I just wanted to underline that it is easier to pick up a normal paid job than selling those illegal copies. I wondered what drives people to do so.
As for me and code ripping, i don't mind, i chose to make most of my source public anyway and add some description to it. The wheel was reinvented too often already. |
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Kristian
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 126 |
Quoting Groepazsomehow i find it amusing to complain about illegal copies of C64 games - on a site which is largely based around the subculture that defines itself largely through illegal copies of C64 games.
My thoughts exactly... the irony of crackers complaining about game authors losing money is... funny. |
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Sounx
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2006
Posts: 30 |
Quote: Quoting Groepazsomehow i find it amusing to complain about illegal copies of C64 games - on a site which is largely based around the subculture that defines itself largely through illegal copies of C64 games.
My thoughts exactly... the irony of crackers complaining about game authors losing money is... funny.
The issue is not the illegality of the items sold and it's also not the fact that the developers are loosing money.
The game is available from CSDb as a cracked version anyway, so I fail to see why you guys seem to consider those points as 'the' issue.
Point is that somebody is making money over the backs of somebody else's hard work. I think it's strange to categorize that as 'amusing' or 'funny'. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4719 |
Actually it's not available as a crack on CSDb. |
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celticdesign
Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 149 |
I might be wrong, but this dude won't make any profit at all. This is just stupid. As collector i don't mind about owning/playing cracks or buying downloads (same goes for music and books ecetera). Of course there are some exceptions like multicards, jewel cracks or rare items. I always prefer the original boxed and well designed product... |
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