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Skylab
Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 183 |
Trivia: Missing Members
Where's the sense in writing the missing member names at the trivia and not to add them to the group??? |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Perhaps 'missing' refers to 'not knowing where they are'?
Or perhaps the entry was locked, so that you can not add stuff to the core-info, but you can add trivia? |
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TWR
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 187 |
Quote: Perhaps 'missing' refers to 'not knowing where they are'?
Or perhaps the entry was locked, so that you can not add stuff to the core-info, but you can add trivia?
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If it's locked, it's locked.
I understand Skylab completly. |
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Zeldin
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 33 |
Ok... trying to explain my reasons for doing it (at least sometimes):
I don't want to add sceners when
a) I have never ever heard anything of this scener and
b) don't have any C64 release/work to connect to him/her
because then there is absolutely no confirmation this scener has ever existed (C64 scene releated). Entering every name dropped in some scrolltexts will only swell up this database, what is not the way I understand csdb. Such members could also be fake members or non C64 members (e.g. part of Amiga/Atari/PC sections etc.) and should be left out until confirmation takes place.
Take for example The Danger Boys and the scrolltext of their 'crack' Persian Gulf [german]. There you can find some names of sceners. I was not willing to enter them, because I am not sure, if these guys have really existed or have ever been part of the scene at all (I was not even willing to enter the above mentioned trivia text in this case)...
In other cases I entered them into trivia to leave it to others to confirm the existance of the sceners (either with the knowledge or the appearance of a release to connect).
cu,
zeld!n |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
What Zeldin said.
I only add new sceners if they are credited somewhere, even if they're just writing a scroller or if they are listed as attendants of a party or meeting.
Filling the database with entries consisting of just a handle & no more info seems pointless & a waste of time, it also highly increases the risk of duplicates. There are cases when f.ex. a swapper changed group & handle as often as they changed socks, if a scener like that can't be identified all his handles would give us a new entry with no connection to the other ones. |
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TWR
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 187 |
If a member-list is added in a crack-intro, demo or something else, I've created entries for those sceners.
Adding only sceners you've heard of would erase a whole lot of entries here, that's for sure. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
On the other hand you might have added non-c64 sceners which doesn't belong here. It was quite common to list people from all sections of a group.
Better safe than sorry applies to me so I'll continue to use the trivia to enter unidentified & uncredited members. |
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TWR
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 187 |
It's no big deal anyway. |
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Skylab
Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 183 |
Hmm...
Missing members listed somewhere are members of a group... And in my opinion it doesn't sense if that scener was only working on a different system than C-64. Either your a member of a group or not. And so I think every member of a group that released C-64 stuff should be listed here. |
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A3
Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 362 |
So afl, flt and other groups that had members on the amiga, pc and atari that has been mentioned in a c64 pruduction should be listed? No way! This is c64 only and should stay that way as much as possible.
There tossed in my 5 cents. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
What about the c-64 sceners that were involved in groups on other platforms then? Should we include those groups as well?
I do not think so!
Agree 100% with Violator, this is the C-64 Scene Database after all. |
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