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2010-01-07 21:25
Carrion

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317
all the magic just goes away

with this video....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5Dn-WaElI
I was hoping somehow that Liam/The Prodigy does the sounds himself.
But know all my religion is wasted...

It's somehow like with Timanthes... You never know what is converted and what is origianl - right ? ;)
2010-01-07 21:30
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
Well, some people just make things seem very easy. Still there is a lot of work to find the samples you need and find out how to process them, before it's all put together.
2010-01-07 21:37
Cresh

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354
There was no Ableton in 1997. :)

And yes. It's about samples and cut&paste.
2010-01-07 22:00
Dano

Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 229
awesome.. that guy REALLY knows how to handle his ableton. stunning stuff to watch, what an outcome!
2010-01-08 00:43
chancer

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346
he knows how to handle ableton.. give him an akai 900 or 950 / c-lab or cubase and an atari ST, and it's not so easy..

back then.. it was a lot more tricky to do stuff.. this is coming back from 88-89.. even at that time, people had just started using macs with system 7 for music, till maybe 97 or so..

a big part as much as making the tune is the crate digging.. so yer it makes it look more easy than it is..

and the joke... stuff from back then.. sounds better than a fair bit of whats out today. prodigy, I didn't like their later stuff, and well now there is pendulum aka prodigy jnr etc.. tired BS

thing is.. thats not how it was exactly made, it's guess work.. so the magic is still there.

comparing it to art.. hhmm well folk like SIT could do killer pics LONG before pc porting was around..much like folk have it easier with music stuff.
2010-01-08 01:41
fade
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 290
Without sounding like a prick, Liam Howlett is a talentless hack, how the hell he can get away with the same bassline for so long is beyond me. Unfortunately you can't even say he uses original samples either. Look at Prodigy's No Good (start the dance), okay the sample is taken from a commercial song from 10 or so years prior to the tune, but about six months before no good was released Liquid Crystal (N.R.G) put out this which was an anthem in the uk (afaik) and australia. I'm not alone in thinking it's not only bad business but playing off the success of another track using the same sample. Here in the .au this tune sparked Prodigy into the mainstream, enfuriating tunespotters and grumpy bum's like me even to this day.

Sorry, but Charly was the only respectable tune they have ever done :/ Dude just samples good bits from underground tunes waaay to much.
2010-01-08 05:32
SIDWAVE
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
I never liked Prodigy.

There was 1000+ more talented MOD composers, cutting up samples, making own sounds, and tracking. A lot more work in a high grade MOD than in any Prodigy track.
2010-01-08 05:54
pvcf

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
sorry dudes.
if you can reproduce something, doesnt means you can do the same like the inventer.
its the same as you can watch someone plays a nice melody on piano and call him lame by learning the same melody and play this too.
(oh, and dont forget to make a movie of you playing piano)

i could say that no one of the tools exist in 1996, but it doesnt cares! if prodigy takes some pieces and stick it together, a absolut new song and beat shows the light.

its the structure of his music (and massive attack for other example) to use samples. he also have used synthesizers, i keep an eye at him since nearly 15 years, to his gear, to his work, and all what can i say: this guy is the god of beat and actionmusic. he invented a absolut new style.

so, after watching the funny video, i'm very impressed: try to getting out such a great track out of those short sampled wav's.

as always on music: it mostly depends on the melody and rhytmus, not on the instrument and the way its be played!

(btw prodigy is THE master in playing with samples)


2010-01-08 06:48
fade
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 290
Well i'm going to see Rennie P on saturday night and Prodigy could have 100 years and not even come close to this guy.

Ask Streetuff, Rhythm Section all day. :)
2010-01-08 07:22
pvcf

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
who is Rennie P ? did i miss something?
2010-01-08 13:49
dalezy

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 476
Quote: who is Rennie P ? did i miss something?

wtf! you sure did, especially in the early 90s =)
 
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