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2010-01-07 21:25
Carrion

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317
all the magic just goes away

with this video....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5Dn-WaElI
I was hoping somehow that Liam/The Prodigy does the sounds himself.
But know all my religion is wasted...

It's somehow like with Timanthes... You never know what is converted and what is origianl - right ? ;)
 
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2010-01-10 00:00
chancer

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346
and the funny thing about it ....

Liam is / was a reason and Ableton user.. I think he uses Live in a "live" environment..

if you know of prodigy at the start.. and nothing of the underground hardcore and jungle scene.. then yer you'd think it was unique.. but that's to do with marketing.. others were front runners..

check out the early 4hero and manix / Reinforced tracks, the Acen / Production house ones.. etc etc

if you like the earlier prodigy stuff, say the first album.
2010-01-10 09:21
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
probably there was a reason that prodigy made it and not the others. ...and that was not marketing, marketing does not make good music, prodigy does.

it gets really silly, just like when people try to claim amiga/atari (8bit)/speccy failed bcoz of marketing...
2010-01-10 14:22
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2968
The reason may be luck, too. And possibly also that somebody came up with the idea to call it "electro punk", which i think is one of the most stupid, pretentious and ridiculous labelings for a musical genre ever.
2010-01-10 14:32
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11351
Quote:
And possibly also that somebody came up with the idea to call it "electro punk", which i think is one of the most stupid, pretentious and ridiculous labelings for a musical genre ever.

imho it describes their stuff (atleast the stuff they made when that label was inventzed) quite well :) it's also what brought them to my and many others attention :)
2010-01-10 16:55
Street Tuff

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 88
Quote: outer space is the best one from them for me. :)

i prefer the original!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORJBFI_OLdU
2010-01-10 17:32
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
Quote: i prefer the original!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORJBFI_OLdU


the "original" is 2 lines from a sucky boring reggae, I wouldnt listen to it for 20 seconds, not 20 years like in the case of prodigy's one(and counting)
2010-01-10 18:50
Deev

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206
Quote: i prefer the original!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORJBFI_OLdU


I agree
2010-01-11 09:12
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1646
Everybody is in the place (not the album version)
2010-01-11 11:19
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
Actually for me that video does not kill Liam Howlett's magic, it rather helps to illustrate it! ;-D

Prodigy rocks, always has, always will! Experience is still my fave album, but I really dig their back to the roots approach on the new album, too! If you dig Prodigy I should mention that there's a lot of B-sides that are quite cool, i collected all their singles ever since Jazzcat once sent me a tape with rare prodigy stuff (which was mostly B-sides!)

Speaking of Prodigy on CSDB i should mention that i find quite a few things on their new "Invaders must die" album rather "SIDish": Omen & Omen Reprise, Colors, Warrior's Dance (hell yeah! Promo version only though!). And I swear to god that Liam used a Hubbard-Drum at the end of "Phoenix" on "Never Outgunned"! ;-D

P.S: Does he sing "I'm the king of migraine" or "I'm the king of margarine" on "Phoenix"? <:-)
2010-01-11 13:46
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Indeed, the magic isn't killed, it is revealed!
Cool stuff, very inspirational.

Also, like others said, it's not how he DOES it, it's how he CAME UP with it that makes it original.
If you like it, is another ball game.

And oh, perhaps Ableton didn't exist, but you can do this with any wave editor and a few plugins.
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