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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Entries without files...
Taking the time to add demos with credits & screenshots without uploading the files seems strange to me...
Perhaps someone who's doing it could explain it to me? |
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maestro
Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 727 |
hmmmmm. dont think anyone should be getting deactivated or hassled because they dont upload the file...
simple!!!!! people upload if they want!!!!!
if people start acting like everyone has to upload then im pretty sure people will stop doing so..
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Okay, if you all want to make this database one pile of shit I quit my activities regarding this db; no more uploads & corrections of the entries from my side.
This time I really had it with you lot.
Have a ball and fuck up this database.
Yay & Woo! \o/
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: Okay, if you all want to make this database one pile of shit I quit my activities regarding this db; no more uploads & corrections of the entries from my side.
This time I really had it with you lot.
Have a ball and fuck up this database.
Yay & Woo! \o/
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Wow .. I thought *I* was a drama queen. So if somebody has the file on floppy, enters as much information as possible but has no way to transfer the file to pc, he FUCKS UP the database? Is that it?
Entry without any information = pile of shit.
Entry with information but without a file = a valid entry.
We've had this discussion a million times over. Ofcourse, if somebody has the file he should upload it. But not everybody can transfer their stuff, it's that simple. I myself have been without these possibilities for quite a long time as the XE1541 cable I had didn't work on the laptop I wanted to use for it.
And to delete an entry, without consulting Perff if it's okay, to me is an abuse of your power.
Edit: fuck that, to delete an entry whatsoever is an abuse of your power. This is not the most user-friendly system in the world, if people take the time to actually enter information they should not be rewarded by seeing it all flushed down the toilet. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote:Wow .. I thought *I* was a drama queen. So if somebody has the file on floppy, enters as much information as possible but has no way to transfer the file to pc, he FUCKS UP the database? Is that it?
In my opinion, yes.
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Entry without any information = pile of shit.
Entry with information but without a file = a valid entry.
Entry without any information = pile of shit.
Entry with information but without a file = pile of shit.
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We've had this discussion a million times over.
Indeed, and this is the last time for me.
I really had it with these stupid discussions. It is like running in circles.
Same goes for the anonymous voting discussion.
Perff should make a final decision about all of these issues.
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And to delete an entry, without consulting Perff if it's okay, to me is an abuse of your power.
Edit: fuck that, to delete an entry whatsoever is an abuse of your power. This is not the most user-friendly system in the world, if people take the time to actually enter information they should not be rewarded by seeing it all flushed down the toilet.
I have the same powers as you have.
All I want is a clean database; entries with correct credits *AND* a file.
Everybody can add a release without credits and without a file and claim it does exist.
In my opinion this is database pollution.
Anyway, I made up my mind.
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
You're right about one thing: Perff should make up his mind and set the rules. If he decides that uploading a file is absolutely required, I will no longer protest against it. But I expect you to do the same if he decided otherwise.
As for the anon. voting thing; I have given up on that a long time ago :( |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote:You're right about one thing: Perff should make up his mind and set the rules. If he decides that uploading a file is absolutely required, I will no longer protest against it. But I expect you to do the same if he decided otherwise.
Ofcourse!
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Motion
Account closed
Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 69 |
The only time I've delayed on adding a file link, is when my son was crying (I'm sure Zyron can relate to that?), then CBA came a long an added a file before me! I still added my version of the file later though... Niels is quick though! :)
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
Quote: And let me finally point out, that it is NOT an excuse for deleting an entry, just that there is no download link, or screenshot or whatever.
CSDb is a place for information about the C64 scene - ANY information. If we had a rule that said "you must only add info if you got 100% of it" we would never have gotten anywhere.
TDJ, Scout: Perff's statement, quoted above, seems pretty clear to me... |
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Tim
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467 |
For me personally any info is important, providing there is no anonymity.
If someone later has questions he/she should be able to ask the original poster/uploader for info (and same applies to voting in my opinion).
Example: lets say we find the perfect collector.. some unknown non-scene version of Jerry/Triad for instance.. probably some 80 year old who finds an internet connection with his grandchild and enjoys informing us about all the wares he has collected that we have no knowledge of copying them letter by letter with old grandpa hands from his typewriter written A4 stacks of paper.
Its of course a romanticized example, but it does happen..
These people do not know how to find Mason, Acidchild or CBA (just to name a few of the eager collectors).
Id rather have the opportunity to have people find this database through google or yahoo and give us the chance to thank them and point them towards the above mentioned threesome then not have their info at all.
It could very well be a big mistake to not tolerate info without files.
Having said that and knowing the effort you put into the csdb, I can understand some of the frustration towards lazy people.
So how about this;
We accept that lack of certain old things and are happy with any info on our glorious past BUT we set an (unwritten) rule that its lame to fail on giving all needed info and/or files on any release of 2006 and later?
(ps, sorry for long text) |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Please close this topic.
Perff has spoken (I overlooked that, thnx Vanja) and the rules are clear now.
Next CSDb drama, please.
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