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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 502 |
Event id #2985 : Filterless $21 Compo 2020
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336 |
I assumed you've figured out that if initial rules stated no testbit or zero wave outside HR and Eric changed testbit not to be used whatsoever, it automatically applies for zero wave as well, doesn't it? ;) |
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F7sus4
Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 117 |
Quote: I assumed you've figured out that if initial rules stated no testbit or zero wave outside HR and Eric changed testbit not to be used whatsoever, it automatically applies for zero wave as well, doesn't it? ;)
Assumptions are bad and lead to unfounded conclusions, because logic, m'kay.
It's just the test-bit that became prohibited, but not $00 during "hard-restart routines". I'd advocate for prohibiting $00 as well, for the very same reasons as test-bit. |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 502 |
Quoting JammerI assumed you've figured out that if initial rules stated no testbit or zero wave outside HR and Eric changed testbit not to be used whatsoever, it automatically applies for zero wave as well, doesn't it? ;)
No it doesn't. Upper nibble = waveform, lower nibble = gate-bit, test-bit etc... The rules when I wrote my question were just about the lower nibble (testbit). So $01 would have been a valid HR waveform.
Anyway, HR isn't allowed anymore – and yep, I get that this also includes the upper nibble now. And that means we can't use GoatTracker at all... |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336 |
'No testbit or zero waveform allowed outside routine's hardrestart phase' stated by initial rules
zero waveform means 4 upper bits disabled in whatever combination with 4 lower bits |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 502 |
Quoting Jammer'No testbit or zero waveform allowed outside routine's hardrestart phase' stated by initial rules
Yes, I got that. But my question came up *after* Eric changed the "initial rules" ;-) |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336 |
You want to push your fucking luck today or what?! I'm not in the mood today. Seriously. |
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F7sus4
Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 117 |
Quoting spider-jAnd that means we can't use GoatTracker at all...
I'm not very proficient with how hard-coded GT routines work, but technically you can do ADSR "soft-restarts" with just $20 and $21 on the board, if that's the case and if I understood you properly. |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1336 |
Quoting F7sus4I'm not very proficient with how hard-coded GT routines work, but technically you can do ADSR "soft-restarts" with just $20 and $21 on the board, if that's the case and if I understood you properly.
Indeed, compo rules don't forbid handling sound restart with adsr in any way possible. |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 502 |
Quoting F7sus4Quoting spider-jAnd that means we can't use GoatTracker at all...
I'm not very proficient with how hard-coded GT routines work, but technically you can do ADSR "soft-restarts" with just $20 and $21 on the board, if that's the case and if I understood you properly.
You have three values for HR in GT:
You can adjust the HR ADSR value.
You can adjust the "1st Frame Wave".
You can adjust the "HR/Gate Timer" (but at least to $01 – not to $00).
So that basically means in order to comply with the rules you can set HR ADSR to whatever you want and "1st Frame Wave" to $20, $21, $22, $23. But you can _not_ turn off HR completely – which means writing "1st Frame Wave" parameter one frame before new note (means: no frequency) into $D404, $D40B or $D412 with HR ADSR values in $D405, $D40C or $D413.
@Jammer: I don't get the problem. I just wanted to know what values to enter in the fields mentioned above. After the rules changed this just isn't clear to me anymore. If it is to you: well good for you. No reason to get pissed, just because I'm dumb :-P
EDIT:
quote from the updated rules:
Quote:hard restart is not allowed |
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F7sus4
Registered: Apr 2013
Posts: 117 |
And yet another thing...
Quoting Erik DobekFiltertable not allowed (Check the title, it's right there)
It's technically possible to turn the filter mask on/off without using/setting any variables in the filtertables. That opens door to many possibilities. |
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